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hardware OS4   hardware OS4 : Alan Redhouse Comments on AmigaWorld about the A1-SE Lite
   posted by Mikey_C on 20-Sep-2003 17:14:27 (41093 reads)
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TA magazine issue 15. To quote myself (because its easier than typing) :

Quote:

AmigaOne Lite - some more details.

In the last edition of Total Amiga I gave a brief overview of the AmigaOne Lite - an entry level AmigaOne designed to both as a CD32/A1200 successor and for use in embedded systems such as kiosks, STB?s etc. However the more observant of you will have realised that in the last issue I actually described the AmigaOne-SE Lite - so why the change of name?

In the interim period we have re-examined the costs and decided that it is economically feasible to significantly increase the A1-Lite?s specification and flexibility within the same overall target pricing. As one of these changes is to use the standard A1XE CPU modules (plus a new entry-level 750CXe module) we dropped the ?SE? from its name.

The full specifications for the AmigaOne Lite are as follows:

Micro ITX form factor (170mmx170mm)
Gigabit and 10/100 ethernet on board
133MHz UDMA RAID IDE controller
USB 2.0 on board
IEEE 1394 (?FireWire?) on board
2x AGP graphics on board with PAL/NTSC TV out
AC97 sound on board
1 x PCI33MHz slot (horizontal, via supplied riser card)
Cardbus slot for flash card support (diskless booting, applications, games slot etc)
Usual legacy PS/2, serial, parallel ports

Being a standard form factor it will fit in a standard micro ITX case, such as the one shown in the enclosed photograph. Please visit the web link at http://www.morex.com.tw/minicase.htm and www.mini-itx.com to see other suitable case designs.

We are aiming to bring the AmigaOne Lite to market early next year.



Not mentioned in the above spec is that the board is now designed to take the standard A1XE megarray cpu module so that it can be supplied with/upgraded to anything from an entry level (=cheap) 750CXe@433 to (possibly) a 1.3GHz G4.


The pictures published on the Soft3 website are of the first pre-prototype version - there will be 2 or 3 revisions before the actual production version is ready. The first step - this board - is basically to shrink the A1XE board to a mini-ITX formfactor and make sure it works properly. Then the other chipsets and connectors will be added and that series of boards use for developers to port OS & applications. It will also be used to demonstrate capability - and hopefully gain some significant orders - in the industrial markets that we and other dealers are targetting (display controllers, kiosks, etc).

Finally we hope the final version (which will be as near as possible to the above spec) will be available for sale in the specialist shops (and ultimately in the high street electronic entertainment chains) - with OS4 and some Amiga applications - in 1Q04.

The pre-production pictures were intended to be shown - at this stage - only to the A1 developers and to the A1-users list on AmigaWorld to try to get some useful feedback. Thats why there was really no explanation available to the world at largel when Soft3 (due to a misunderstanding) put them up on their own website.

However, from what I can see the, open publication of these pictures, together with the screen shots of a beta of OS4 running on the A1 - has had a very positive reception. But, please, no private emails for more details on availability dates and prices - we're swamped with emails as it is. This stuff will be posted 'when its ready' (c).

Hope this helps


Alan
    

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SvenHarvey 
Re: Alan Redhouse Comments on AmigaWorld about the A1-SE Lit
Posted on 21-Sep-2003 19:39:38
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Please sir, can I have permission to gush on, and on, and on about this in Micro Mart.

The real home computer will return, oh yesss...

at least

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Re: Alan Redhouse Comments on AmigaWorld about the A1-SE Lit
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Quote:
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Poster: _PAB_ Date: 20-Sep-2003 19:05:37
@_Steve_:
Even when the Firewire-Ports on Pegasos are not yet functional afaik.
I seem to recall reading it was working under Linux, just not under MOS. However, not owning a Pegasos I can't be 100% on that

Right, Firewire works on the Pegasos, but the MorphOS support isn't there yet. It shouldn't be long in coming, given the pace of MOS development. Firewire is definitely a draw on both these products though, and it'll be interesting to see the actual AmigaOne Lite implementation, and not just the feature list of a prototype.

-- gary_c

 
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@ ikir

Indeed it does my friend... indeed it does.

I have wanted something like this since the mock-up A2400.

Mr Redhouse:

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and Gina

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dont forget Mike

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... and Mr DaveyD and co. (I say Mr coz I want a Liz Hurley avatar ).

But I seriously can't wait for A1-Lite!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: Alan Redhouse Comments on AmigaWorld about the A1-SE Lit
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Quote:

Alan wrote:
AmigaOne Lite - some more details.

The full specifications for the AmigaOne Lite are as follows:

2x AGP graphics on board with PAL/NTSC TV out


I was dubious about this idea (the 'lite' board), BUT GET A LOAD OF THIS!! PAL/NTSC out! It's a 12000!


Quote:

Alan wrote:

Cardbus slot for flash card support (diskless booting, applications, games slot etc)


YES YES YES YES (got a couple days?) YES....


Quote:

Alan wrote:
with/upgraded to anything from an entry level (=cheap) 750CXe@433 to (possibly) a 1.3GHz G4.


Please come on already, where are the 1.3s? How much is it? I want/need One!
(E-mail me.)


Quote:

Alan wrote:
This stuff will be posted 'when its ready' (c).

Looks like we need a new smilie!


AmigaOne! I knew, just always knew.....

 
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Re: Alan Redhouse Comments on AmigaWorld about the A1-SE Lit
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Well, this is a massive step in the right direction for the AmigaOne. If I can get one between $300 and $400 I'll probably go for it. As far as I'm concerned this is the first REAL AmigaOne. A machine without built in sound and graphics has no right even laying claim to the Amiga name. Plus the inclusion of USB2.0 and Firewire marks this as a true modern day computer.

But I think it should have an AGP slot, or better yet, a custom edge connector so you can add AGP/PCI/Zorro3/Whatever slots in the future.

The closest Commodore came to "getting it right" was the CD32, but they blew it by crippling the unit's expansion capablilities.

If they had made one base board that could be anything from a CD32 game system to a top of line 4000 equivelent, they could have manfactured one computer and stayed slovent. Commodore might not have gone under at all.

It's great to deliver video out of the box. It's NECCECARY for any machine trying to live up to the Amiga legacy, but the best onboard video in the world will be outdated by the time the board actually ships. This is true with any computer.

Set a minumum standard for the Amiga video, but still allow a video upgrade option that allows growth, as well as other expansion options.

Make ONE board that will last the user for next 5 years of new technologies, make it well, and make a lot of them to get the best per unit cost. Then it WILL sell.

The AmigaOne Lite captures the spirit that made us all love Commodore. Everything is there ready to use, but it also has the limitation that killed Commodore in the end. The thinking that you have to make different hardware for different users.

If Mac on Linux is still around these board will make killer Mac clones even if the "Amiga" ends up a dismal failure.

It's a lot cheaper to offer a single upgradable machine than to make 2 different boards and make end users choose between upgradability or useability.

 
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Ah, so gary_c deleted his account.


wondered why I hadn't seen him around these parts as of late.

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