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ddni 
Wow! Simply WOW!
Posted on 23-May-2012 13:10:18
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This was just announced!

http://ultimateppc.nl/index.php

Gideon Zweijtzer (of 1541-Ultimate fame) and Rutger Bevaart have teamed up to bring renewed innovation to the Classical Amiga by announcing the UltimatePPC today, the ultimate CPU expansion card for the Amiga 3000 & 4000. This new card will bring unparalleled performance and many great new features to the Amiga series of computers that were not available previously and give current users a viable upgrade path for aging components. It also opens new possibilities for newer versions of the Amiga Operating System or alternatives to run on your classic hardware with great performance. The UltimatePPC puts your Amiga right back on your desk as the most versatile and fun computer that has ever existed! Right now the UltimatePPC is in active development, we expect to be able to take pre-orders at the end of 2012. Please visit our project website at http://ultimateppc.nl for availability information, specifications and detailed status reports. Gideon & Rutger

I hope to every pagan deity in the universe that they can pull this off!

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Re: Wow! Simply WOW!
Posted on 23-May-2012 13:45:18
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@ddni

Nice to see but I think we had better wait until release before any A3000/4000 owners get too excited.

Not sure what size market is left in the A3000/4000 level.

It is clearly a labour of love! (Like everything Amiga).

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@ddni

only projects, only projects, but will another scam?

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@natamix

did they ask some money in advance from you? Do you know what "scam" means?

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Posted on 23-May-2012 14:07:17
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@Framiga
Sorryyy, did not know that Gideon has already made previous hard for C64.

Scam?
I meant vaporware

..anyway seems to bother someone to say what you think..

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@Natamix

[quote]but will another scam?quote]

Doesn't look like it. I think it says they will accept pre-orders in the future - but if someone wants to do so it's not like someone is holding a gun to their head.

Give them a chance. With their past history of releasing C64 products (http://www.nightfallcrew.com/18/06/2011/unboxing-1541-ultimate-ii-by-gideon-zweijtzer/) I actually think this is something that has a good chance of seeing the light of day. Not for me though - my A4000 died years ago...

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@natamix

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Sorryyy, did not know that Gideon has already made previous hard for C64.


You see there is some credibility now.

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Framiga 
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@natamix

btw, it looks like real to me! (already love it!)

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@Framiga
@-Sam-

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Yet another project that is going to drag for years and prevent dreampipe smokers from buying real and available hardware.

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@ddni

Having owned a Blizzard PPC board for one of my A1200's for at least the past 7 years, I'm just wondering... what would someone use a PPC board on an A3000 or A4000 for ???

I only ask because the only thing I get any use of from my PPC board is running LAME and Frodo (A C64 emulator), haven't found much else PPC (software wise) that's actually useful on classic hardware with a PPC board, Don't say OS4.0 classic either as I've got that and it;s slower than a dead donkey (and about as useful)...

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@Trixie

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Yet another project that is going to drag for years and prevent dreampipe smokers from buying real and available hardware.


Yeah, that's a very real and annoying fact unfortunately

They want the new ultimate Amiga and wait for years. When it finally comes, it's not ultimate so they don't buy it. Then a new "ultimate" announcement comes and the cycles repeats with two unfortunate results:

1. The dreamers never get to experience real Amiga, because they never get to buy what's available

2. Actual Amiga HW companies doesn't sell hardware because dreamers aren't satisfied when their dream finally comes true

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natamix wrote:
only projects, only projects, but will another scam?


They have a picture of a board. Assembled. Way more believable than an MS Paint block diagram...

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@Trixie

You mean a PC with Aros?

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Framiga 
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@Franko

you are absolutely right. AmigaOS4.x is painful slow on a BPPC with its 32 bit memory and no scsi support.

On a CSPPC is all another matter! (and with this new toy, way better)



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@Franko

If this card will have a Sam460 equivalent CPU it will not even be comparable to a 15 years old BlizzardPPC and OS4 would run very smoothly on it. I also have a BlizzPPC but I promized myself to never get OS4 for it, because it just can't be good. I want a proper machine for that, such as the A1-XE I have, and the X1000 I hope I soon will have.

This card (the picture someone posted) also seems to have a DVI port so probably integrated graphics, which would make it close to the CPU and therefore fast (not having to go over the ancient Zorro bus).

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@Franko

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Don't say OS4.0 classic either as I've got that and it;s slower than a dead donkey (and about as useful)...


If Gideon and friends are using a newer/faster PPC, which it sounds like they are, then this problem will not affect their design the same way it does Phase5's board.

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@Franko

Purely because you can, I guess. Although a board like that will most likely be many times faster than the BlizzardPPC in your A1200. Some people like to use them for things like playing music, videos, 3D rendering etc., where the extra horsepower is quite welcome. And it might just be fast enough to make OS4.1 usable

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33MHz 68040 CPU
1.0GHz Freescale PowerPC CPU
128MB of DDR3 memory for the 68040
An additional 2GB of DDR3 memory on an SO-DIMM
USB2 host controller with integrated 4 port hub
SATA2 controller with two SATA ports
10/100/1000 Ethernet controller
Embedded 2D video with DVI connector


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Posted on 23-May-2012 14:51:35
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Franko wrote:
@ddni

Having owned a Blizzard PPC board for one of my A1200's for at least the past 7 years, I'm just wondering... what would someone use a PPC board on an A3000 or A4000 for ???

...Don't say OS4.0 classic either as I've got that and it;s slower than a dead donkey (and about as useful)...


I don't know why you fail to realize that OS4.1 has been out for the classics with PPC boards for a while now & yes I know you don't want to spend the money to buy a graphics card to run it optimally & that's why you moan
(or you can buy yourself a Sam460ex, X1000 & run AmigaOS4.1 on the most modern hardware while complimenting your classic )

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