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Re: The Classic PPC OS4 Installation Thread Posted on 16-Jan-2008 2:18:55
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| Hello Everybody,
I've successfully installed OS4, but I have a strange problem that has not shown up in this thread.
The system:
Quickpak A4000T w/ CSPPC + 128 megs of ram
New to the Amiga 9GB HD & old CD burner on CyberSCSI
Cards installed:
Toaster 4000 Video Flyer Hydra Ethernet with nothing attached Catweasel Mark 2 Zorro card also not connected to anything
I had been running OS3.1. I disconnected those drives.
I booted from a floppy created from the CD on my A4000D because the one in the package showed as having bad blocks. It handed over to the CD and the install began. The installer mistakenly identified the machine as an A4000D. I corrected this and proceeded. I had to abort the install because Media Toolbox would not run properly from the installer. I used the template to set up the partitions. I formatted them and cold booted. Now the install ran smoothly. The system seems to boot properly. I installed Aladdin 4D by CD with no problem. I still have to work out some kind of preview screen problem with ImageFX 4.5.
Then I discovered that the floppy drive is not recognized by OS4. It is as if it does not exist. I moved FD0: & PC0: from Storage into Devs: and rebooted. I'm told that they can't be mounted. From a cold start a bootable floppy in the drive will boot the machine.
Any suggestions would be welcome.
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Re: The Classic PPC OS4 Installation Thread Posted on 16-Jan-2008 14:27:52
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| I have just recieved O/S 4.0 today My system is:
A1200 with 68040 / 240 PPC with SCSI 128MB with BVision SCSI hard drive / Cd Rom 4.0 GIG IDE Hard Drive
My SCSI drives are for use with O/S 3.9 My 2.5" IDE Hard drive connected direct to internal IDE is for O/S 4.0 which at the moment is partioned with an O/S 3.9 boot on 1st partition
I need help advice on the following:
After O/S 4.0 installation is it still possible to choose to boot my O/S 3.9 connected to PPC SCSI instead of O/S 4.0 on internal IDE?
I don`t yet have an IDE CD ROM and the SCSI on PPC is not supported, is it possible to install O/S 4.0 whilst booted with O/S 3.9 boot on IDE, hence having access to the SCSI Cd Rom for installation, then after rebooting on IDE of course the SCSI won`t be supported from this drive?
Any ideas for connecting an IDE CD ROM?
cheers
My system is
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Re: The Classic PPC OS4 Installation Thread Posted on 16-Jan-2008 15:47:29
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Then I discovered that the floppy drive is not recognized by OS4. It is as if it does not exist. I moved FD0: & PC0: from Storage into Devs: and rebooted. I'm told that they can't be mounted. From a cold start a bootable floppy in the drive will boot the machine.
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Enable the floppy fix in the kicklayout, there are problems with some drives without it (A1200 from AT, modded PC-Drives, ...). |
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Re: The Classic PPC OS4 Installation Thread Posted on 18-Jan-2008 23:35:20
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| @ZeroG
That did it. I now have DF0: Thank you!
Tried to install Video Toaster/Flyer software which starts from a floppy. That part works fine. But, like others have reported, after copying a large number of files the install process freezes. And on the same file.
Oh, well, I'll have to copy over my previous setup. I just want to see what works, and what may not.
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Re: The Classic PPC OS4 Installation Thread Posted on 20-Jan-2008 19:18:53
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| Well, just tried installing OS4 (again) and it failed right at the end. Same error as before "Error copying standard preferences...." etc. I'm not sure what is causing this problem. This was a blank HDD - installed, formatted and partitioned during installation according to the manual and it still failed at the end, just like before. I don't have a spare HDD to try just now.
I have managed to install OS4 once so far, but haven't been able to do so since...
The installer copies 157.2mb of data from the CD and the installation fails at the end... any ideas?
Steve
_________________ A1200T - OS4.0,OS3.9: 603e PPC 200mhz,060 50mhz, 256mb ram, FastATA MK-III, BVision, 160gb,20gb HDDs
A1200 - OS3.1: Blizzard IV 030, 64mb ram, 400mb HDD
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Re: The Classic PPC OS4 Installation Thread Posted on 21-Jan-2008 0:13:43
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What file system are you using? _________________ If your nose runs and your feet smell, you're upside down. |
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Re: The Classic PPC OS4 Installation Thread Posted on 21-Jan-2008 0:54:54
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Unrelated but did you source another Bvision yet?
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Re: The Classic PPC OS4 Installation Thread Posted on 22-Jan-2008 7:54:22
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DaveAE wrote: @stefanor
We don't have the source code or schematics to the 'classic' sound cards. And it should really be up to the sound card manufacturers to make an OS4 driver.
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Hi, I asked the manufacturer, and he says a driver isn't planned. Anyway for the Prelude the last version of the 68K driver and library worked well for me.
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Re: The Classic PPC OS4 Installation Thread Posted on 22-Jan-2008 17:47:35
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I was being a n00b. Not sure how, exactly, but I was... Not sure what I was doing wrong, as I had added FFS/SFS and changed the DOS Types, etc but I was obviously doing something wrong. I like to state the obvious!
I now have OS4 booting again, bit still without my BVision, so will have to wait for that kernel fix before I can experiment properly with my Voodoo and Mediator.
Anyhow... gonna go and fiddle as much as it lets me
@Akiko
I haven't managed to source a BVision yet, no. But I may be able to get hold of one in March
Steve _________________ A1200T - OS4.0,OS3.9: 603e PPC 200mhz,060 50mhz, 256mb ram, FastATA MK-III, BVision, 160gb,20gb HDDs
A1200 - OS3.1: Blizzard IV 030, 64mb ram, 400mb HDD
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Re: The Classic PPC OS4 Installation Thread Posted on 22-Jan-2008 19:42:01
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Alls well that ends well. I hope that kernel arrives soon. There a few programs that whinge about my screenmode and won't run.
Sure this is down to the dodgy Elbox driver. _________________ If your nose runs and your feet smell, you're upside down. |
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Re: The Classic PPC OS4 Installation Thread Posted on 22-Jan-2008 20:36:08
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You have PM.
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Re: The Classic PPC OS4 Installation Thread Posted on 26-Jan-2008 9:27:49
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| Noticed a couple of things -- wondering if any of these things are known. A) Been using OS4 with Amiga's AGA while I figure out how to better cool my CyberVisionPPC card and noticed that the rendering for the pictures that show up in the requesters is only showing like 2/3 of the image. The top 1/3 is missing. I was using NTSC Hires Laced, 256 colors. E.g.Type df0: in a shell with no floppy disk in the drive and then you'll notice the "?" image is chopped off at the top.
B) I was thinking that PS/2 keyboards could work with OS4 on classic machines...and so I tried plugging it in...and used "Input" prefs to turn-off "Amiga keyboard"...and then used the "Test" field. It went bonkers...the keyboard automatically kept repeating the same letter over and over until the Input prefs crashed.
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Re: The Classic PPC OS4 Installation Thread Posted on 26-Jan-2008 14:13:28
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| well after a lot of frustration i finaly got os4 installed onto another hd, (phew) as it would not let me into the partioning format screen nor would it recognise my hard drive ? i had to use 0s 3.1 install disc to do this. then my drive was recognised, along with the partion`s that i had created. then it would not let me into the change filesytem screen? i could only change the file system after it had installed. plus other problems that i had to find a workaround, to get it to install.
the men in white coats where knocking on my door by then.
after many hour`s trying to get it so that i can see the wb screen reasonably well on my t.v. (rgb >scart), i thought i would relax and disconnect the hd, and reconnect my os3.5 hd to play settlers. nothing - zipo - sweet F.A. my os3.5 hd would not bootup anymore, confronted with the dreaded purple animaited insert disc.
does anybody know how i can access my hd. as to me it sounds like after installing os4 it has cleared out my roms of all info? and thats why it cant bootup my os3.5 hd??
thanks in advance mike
power tower bppc 603e 160/060/50 256mem med 1200sx fast ata111 etc.
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Re: The Classic PPC OS4 Installation Thread Posted on 26-Jan-2008 16:55:16
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to me it sounds like after installing os4 it has cleared out my roms of all info? |
ROM = Read Only Memory.
OS4 can't wipe the ROM, what it can do, it put its kernel in (RAM) memory, so if you Turn off your Amiga, it should return to your old kickstart,
You can also return to your old kickstart using CTRL+ALT+ALT keys (cold reboot for AmigaOS4)
Cold reboot is the same as turning off your Amiga of about 10 - 15 seconds to get clean RAM, if you turn off your Amiga and back on to quick, then OS4 kickstart stays in RAM.
Warm reboot is just simple reset, fast memory tagged as Kickstart memory stays (RAD device, Prepare-emul, ReloKick, OS4 kernel modules). Warm reboot is done whit CTRL+AMIGA+AMIGA keys.
I don't know what you did to get OS4 to boot, but if you rearranged some thing, maybe you need change the master/slave settings on your harddrive. or maybe you connected the HD cable wrong, the red side of the cable should always point to power cord on the Hard Drive.
Note if you connected the cable wrong in bout ends it might work.
maybe you shuld boot from OS3.1 floppy disk to see if you can find the HD.
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Re: The Classic PPC OS4 Installation Thread Posted on 26-Jan-2008 19:17:17
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i have tried the 3.1 install disc and my os3.5 hd is not there anymore. note: i disconnected this hd . and put in a second hd to put os4 on it.
i then disconnected the os4 hd, and reconnected my os3.5 hd. nothing shows up anymore. exept the insert disc screen ?
i am also having probs with os4, not reconising pc floppys or cd`s ? it says disc is write protected when it is not ? and has error on 0.
crossdos is in the sys drawer, and pc0 & pc1 is in dev/driver`s ,the same as my os3.5 configuration. it wont read cd`s either.
so i am at this moment trying to re-install os4?? but i have come up against the same problem, media toolbox , it wont open the edit partions filesystems ? so i can partion the hd ???? it is saying the hd is ready & highlighted, but no matter what i do i cant get into it???
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Re: The Classic PPC OS4 Installation Thread Posted on 26-Jan-2008 21:49:10
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as the media toolbox will not / does not work from the install procedure???
i found media toolbox in the system drawer on the os4 cd and done it from there, hey presto it worked.
re-booted and all icons come up, formated them from the wb screen, and whent straight passed the m / toolbox screen to the next part of the install, so far so good?
waiting to see what else it throws at me.
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Re: The Classic PPC OS4 Installation Thread Posted on 26-Jan-2008 21:58:21
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"as the media toolbox will not / does not work from the install procedure???"
Been re-installing OS4 on a fresh IDE drive and noticed the same thing (using AGA only, no graphic card installed in my amiga... But this is strange cause it worked before when I installed it on my CyberstormPPC scsi drive with a graphics card....
Just noticing now that my graphic ram is down to like 160K -- so maybe it is a memory issue that mediatoolbox doesn't open...
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Re: The Classic PPC OS4 Installation Thread Posted on 26-Jan-2008 22:14:04
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mmmm could be? i am using the aga mode as well, on my t.v rgb >scart lead, flickers like hell and a job to read the writing? as i dont have a monitor atached to my graphics yet.
i shouldnt have an issue regards mem ? 256 on my bppc 060.
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Re: The Classic PPC OS4 Installation Thread Posted on 27-Jan-2008 5:17:22
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omg sounds like my machine aghhh its driven me insane yes l thought l have to use 3.1 install disk myself though havent got that far yet .
l to scared to find out if lost all my data of my orginal hd l be really introuble if l have
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Re: The Classic PPC OS4 Installation Thread Posted on 27-Jan-2008 7:36:19
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Yeah, I have 128MB on my PPC card but think it is the low chip mem that is causing problems....
After installing, for some reason at boot time it says DH0: is not a dos disk ... and so been seeing if there was something wrong the the RDB by using MediaToolbox...and got some strange behavior when trying to look at the file system (i.e. it would not open) and then as soon as I closed some windows to free mem, it worked okay--still haven't figured out why it is saying not a DOS disk though. |
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