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Niolator 
Long boot time for X5000
Posted on 2-Apr-2020 20:45:56
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I think my AmigaOne X5000 takes very long time to start up. I remember my AmigaOne G4 XE. It took only a few second for it to boot into AmigaOS 4.1. For my X5000 it takes 36 seconds only for the boingball to start to rotate at boot. Is that normal?

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thinkchip 
Re: Long boot time for X5000
Posted on 2-Apr-2020 21:16:16
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@Niolator

Mine takes 41 seconds. I think it's normal. There are UBOOT variables to speed things up. I tried them, but I haven't gotten them to work. Once it's running it's very fast and stable.

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Trixie 
Re: Long boot time for X5000
Posted on 2-Apr-2020 22:03:34
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@Niolator

Have you got a medium present in your optical drive? The X5000 takes quite a long time checking for it, before it finally times out. I don't know if there's a UBOOT variable to change the timeout - perhaps someone else knows?

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tonyw 
Re: Long boot time for X5000
Posted on 2-Apr-2020 23:53:24
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@Trixie

The latest version of U-Boot on the X-5040 also takes an interminable time (33 sec) reporting EHCI errors before it actually starts the ball rolling. I have an earlier version on the X-5020 and that one is fast (6 sec).

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Skateman 
Re: Long boot time for X5000
Posted on 3-Apr-2020 9:14:13
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@Niolator

Like tonyw mentioned... on my X5000/20 6 seconds is more like it.

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Niolator 
Re: Long boot time for X5000
Posted on 3-Apr-2020 17:44:22
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@Skateman & tonyw: That is a big difference from mine. IŽll have to check U-Boot to see if I can change some variables to make it faster.

@Trixie: I do have an optical unit connected but I normally have no media in it. Maybe I should disconnect it to see if it makes any difference?

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Niolator 
Re: Long boot time for X5000
Posted on 4-Apr-2020 15:55:28
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I have tried to start it without the optical drive connected now. It goes a little faster. It takes 22 seconds without the optical drive. That is at least some improvement.

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Trixie 
Re: Long boot time for X5000
Posted on 4-Apr-2020 16:26:02
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@Niolator

What is your boot time if you have the optical drive connected and keep a medium in it?

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Hypex 
Re: Long boot time for X5000
Posted on 4-Apr-2020 18:00:25
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@Niolator

That does sound bad. Glad I kept my X1000! LOL.

I've often blamed this delay on the complicated setup of a modern 3d graphic card. But I don't know if this is the case. However, a PPC Mac Pro G5 tower in my possesion took 20 seconds to bring up any display from boot. So maybe this was normal. Though if a Mac card used LISP in firmware that would incur a penality.

On my X1000 that screen delay is ten seconds. After that there is no excuses in my book. People say CFE has to read all the optical drives and HDD drives as well as USB drives that it doesn't even support. Ahem. My A1/XE also does all those things, the hardware including controllers and drives is slower, and it gets the job doen quicker. This is with two DVD drives, two HDD drives and USB scanned at bootup. No excuses.

Remember when AmigaOne computing was fast? I do booting on the AmigaOne/XE!

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Re: Long boot time for X5000
Posted on 4-Apr-2020 18:54:36
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@Hypex

With a vampire the bootup is instant.

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bison 
Re: Long boot time for X5000
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@monstercoder

Quote:
With a vampire the bootup is instant.

Or even faster.

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Amigo1 
Re: Long boot time for X5000
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@bison

Quote:

bison wrote:
@monstercoder

Quote:
With a vampire the bootup is instant.

Or even faster.


it's funny because it's true

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tonyw 
Re: Long boot time for X5000
Posted on 6-Apr-2020 0:10:42
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@monstercoder

Vampire enjoys its freedom from U-Boot. I hope it continues to do that and does not try to support too many USB devices.

U-Boot is the problem here. Because it tries to be all things to all platforms, it spends ages trying to initialise all USB devices. The more USB ports you have, the longer it takes to poll every possible device on every attached port. Even then, it still can't reach USB devices at the end of a chain.

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