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Re: Introducing Tabor and the A1222 Posted on 6-Nov-2015 15:40:58
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Science translates to "knowledge, skill, expertness, awareness, acquaintance". In scandinavian "vetenskap" which kind of means "the art of knowledge" or "knowledgability".
The word science isn't that well defined. Mathematics is formal science, there is natural science, applied science... Where in this group you like to put "exact science" is for you to google But you can't hardheadedly say that psychology or mathematics isn't science. I'd say it depends how you use it and what you use it for if it becomes science or not.
Splitting a bill at TGI Friday's isn't mathematical science, but deriving Pi in geometry I'd say classify as mathematical science. _________________ - Don't get fooled by my avatar, I'm not like that (anymore, mostly... maybe only sometimes) > Amiga Classic and OS4 developer for OnyxSoft.
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Re: Introducing Tabor and the A1222 Posted on 6-Nov-2015 15:59:46
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| @Deniil715: I agree.
@Tuxedo. Quote:
He was obviously speaking about common way of software development...why he have to speak in theoric therms? I really dont understand all that talking about a simple statement... |
If you talk about "exact science" it's obvious the opposite: you're referring to the formal definition. Hence, the dispute.
Words are important, Simone.
However I think that filling pages of a thread which talks of completely different thing only for this... is a bit too much. |
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Re: Introducing Tabor and the A1222 Posted on 6-Nov-2015 19:01:51
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| Please keep up with the news argument: introducing the Tabor A1222. _________________ retired
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Re: Introducing Tabor and the A1222 Posted on 6-Nov-2015 19:36:39
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Words are important, Simone. |
(I think) The problem is that ssolie spoke a set phrase (:an expression whose meanings cannot be inferred from the meanings of the words that make it up) and you took it literally _________________ No PowerPC, No Fun Make Amiga Great Again
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Re: Introducing Tabor and the A1222 Posted on 6-Nov-2015 20:28:37
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(I think) The problem is that ssolie spoke a set phrase (:an expression whose meanings cannot be inferred from the meanings of the words that make it up) and you took it literally
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Indeed, but did ssolie even actually say it? I just watched his AmiWest presentation, which was quite informal in tone, hence taking anything said in it 'formally' as cdimauro would like to is a mistake, but no where in the video did he say "software is not an exact science", the closest I heard was that in computer science there often not just one answer to a problem.
Has he been very badly paraphrased or did he say it somewhen else?
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He said in the a.org post AmiWest Q&A, the context is obvious, cdimauro's inabilty to understand that, says more about him than ssolie.
God knows what my need to reply to this subject says about me Last edited by broadblues on 06-Nov-2015 at 08:45 PM.
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Re: Introducing Tabor and the A1222 Posted on 6-Nov-2015 20:33:22
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Re: Introducing Tabor and the A1222 Posted on 6-Nov-2015 21:26:50
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| @Fransexy: Quote:
(I think) The problem is that ssolie spoke a set phrase (:an expression whose meanings cannot be inferred from the meanings of the words that make it up) and you took it literally
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Well, when you talk of "exact science", the term refers to a precise thing.
@broadblues: Quote:
Indeed, but did ssolie even actually say it? I just watched his AmiWest presentation, which was quite informal in tone, hence taking anything said in it 'formally' as cdimauro would like to is a mistake, but no where in the video did he say "software is not an exact science", the closest I heard was that in computer science there often not just one answer to a problem.
Has he been very badly paraphrased or did he say it somewhen else?
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He said in the a.org post AmiWest Q&A, the context is obvious, cdimauro's inabilty to understand that, says more about him than ssolie. |
I haven't read amiga.org: I don't follow such forum.
The sentence was reported in another forum, as is. Ask Tuxedo... Quote:
God knows what my need to reply to this subject says about me
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Re: Introducing Tabor and the A1222 Posted on 6-Nov-2015 22:43:27
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word are important but the context also much in some situations no? I really dont see anything but what Steven said in the context he stated the phrase... _________________ Simone"Tuxedo"Monsignori, Perugia, ITALY.
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Re: Introducing Tabor and the A1222 Posted on 6-Nov-2015 22:49:43
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| @Tuxedo: there's no problem, according to the context, accepting the fact that software development takes time.
But that's NOT because it isn't an exact science.
Is it more clear now? |
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Re: Introducing Tabor and the A1222 Posted on 6-Nov-2015 23:10:58
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Almost three pages over 1 sentance in AmiWest. Not bad !
And Id say, this demostrates why Hyperion and Ssolie avoids posting much (and even reading) on forums. Everything they say are dissected and meanings (right or wrong) assigned. |
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Re: Introducing Tabor and the A1222 Posted on 7-Nov-2015 0:06:21
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yes and no ;-P since no need to read something tat wasnt in the Steven phrase imho...
however back in topic I hope that Tabor will receive OS4.1 in not so much time...Iμm really curious to see some nice benchmark made with Tabor under AmigaOS _________________ Simone"Tuxedo"Monsignori, Perugia, ITALY.
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