Only in Amiga Land. I was quite supportive of the new progress until all this bizarre activity went on. Oh well, I was so close to running OS4, it seems a cheap net book and a downloadable OS is the way to go if that's how things happen now.

I, and others said GO x86 years ago and kept saying it. There is no rational explanation for producing any hardware that costs the earth and performs like a dog in comparison to a x86 based desktop. Hyperion won their day in court (supposedly) and despite all the freedom they now enjoy, they will not make sensible decisions.

How can this carry on? With every new release of OS4, how many additional users are coming on board? It's now becoming quite a joke.

I'm done - I will let people who are still interested continue the discussions. Good luck to A-Eon and Hyperion, but I see problems but then it's not my concern.

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Oh well, I was so close to running OS4

Really? Sorry, I don't believe you.
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they will not make sensible decisions

Another one who decides for others, what's sensible and what's not. Those, who are (for you) apparently not able to make "sensible" decisions are so thankful, that there are people, who are able to do so. *sigh*

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@A1200

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How can this carry on? With every new release of OS4, how many additional users are coming on board?

In Czech Republic, there were 2 (!) AmigaOne users...
After OS4.1 release: some people bought SAM (more than 100 % grow of user base...).
After OS4.1 release for Pegasos II: some Pegasos II users bought AmigaOS 4.1 (even the leading spirit of the Czech Pegasos User Group!).

So, with every new release for some new platform, the user base grows significantly, at least in our small country.

I can understand people saying "think before you spend a load of cash" but no-one is getting forced into entering the beta-test program. Surely if people have concerns about the issues raised then they could ask for clarification from Trevor? I don't but the big conspiracy theory. Seriously I think that people can make up their own minds how they want to spend their money! FWIW I'm looking forward to buying one of these when they go on general sale; bring it on!

@cha05e90

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Really? Sorry, I don't believe you.

Well that's where you are wrong. I have an A1XE here, and was going to buy OS4 a few weeks back and thought better of it. Look out for my eBay listing, hey why not even bid - if you have any money left after getting stuck in to the beta scheme if that's how you choose to spend your time and money.

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@1200

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was quite supportive of the new progress until all this bizarre activity went on. Oh well, I was so close to running OS4, it seems a cheap net book and a downloadable OS is the way to go if that's how things happen now.

Whats stopping you from getting a SAM 440 or SAM 460? Why were you hinging everything on the X1000?

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I, and others said GO x86 years ago and kept saying it.

Yep and Hyperion kept saying no. What does this have to do with this thread though?

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Hyperion won their day in court (supposedly)

Actually both parties settled out of court.

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How can this carry on? With every new release of OS4, how many additional users are coming on board? It's now becoming quite a joke.

Well Hyperion is a commercial enterprise, and somehow they have survived off of the current user base with whatever rate of growth it has had.

You could always go for AROS on a netbook.

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Well that's where you are wrong. I have an A1XE here, and was going to buy OS4 a few weeks back and thought better of it. Look out for my eBay listing, hey why not even bid - if you have any money left after getting stuck in to the beta scheme if that's how you choose to spend your time and money.

Didn't every A1XE come with a OS 4 license? (I could be wrong). Even if it did not what does the X1000 from A-Eon have to do with the decision to spend $150US or not on a OS 4.1 license for your A1XE?

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@fairlanefastback

The A1XE I got didn't come with software, and AFAIK, 4.1 is a separate purchase anyway, which if I was to run OS4.x, I would want the latest release to give it a fair outing.

As for what is the correlation between getting OS4.x for a Sam/A1 with regards to the X-1000, it has just come to me that this whole thing is both taking to long to give a useful general desktop OS experience and even if we (the forum users) were to lay our money down for every release of OS4 and every new hardware, I don't think we will be moving on leaps and bounds like I would expect.

Open source baby! No hard feelings, just expressing my opinion, I could be wrong and so could others with a different opinion.

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Yep and Hyperion kept saying no. What does this have to do with this thread though?

Well, some of us who were sitting on the fence, and some OS4 supporters are now feeling disillusioned with HW costs/performance and overall progress, hence the criticisms I have tried to offer, but they fall on deaf ears.

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Actually both parties settled out of court.

OK a technicality - they got what they wanted which was control over OS4.

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@A1200

I still don't get it. Since mid/end 2008 is the best and most progressive time OS4.x ever had on software and hardware side.

BTW: If you have really that strange combination of an AmigaOne without an operation system - you can't really know how it is (and how much fun it can be...) to use it.

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I still don't get it. Since mid/end 2008 is the best and most progressive time OS4.x ever had on software and hardware side.

In my opinion--to which I'm entitled, even if others think it's FUD--AmigaOS today is where AmigaOS should have been 10 years ago. I'm excited about the X1000. Fingers crossed, it will provide the impetus for real advances in AmigaOS, preferably in the form of post-modern parallel processing APIs.

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