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Amigaworld.net News   Amigaworld.net News : Some changes at AmigaWorld.net
   posted by Anonymous on 14-May-2005 6:42:40 (6890 reads)
After discussing with the moderating and administration team and reading through user comments about moderation and looking at the list of moderation incidents we have come to the conclusion that a few additions are needed to the terms of service to make things clearer for users and moderating staff alike.

We have also invited wegster to join the staff moderation team to help us maintain a fair and balanced forum.


The new terms of service are posted under Terms and Policy ( see Extras block to the left ) but for your convenience we have posted the ammendments here. You will notice that most of the modification involves advertising as the moderation job over the last six months has been mainly involved in dealing with spammers and users mis-using the forums to lodge classified advertisments.

We will also be modifying the classified advertisment block so that its appearance is more noticeable, less clutterred and more likely to attract the reader. This is to encourage people to actually use that module more.

Addenda:

Moderation

A moderators say is final. When a moderation decision is made the moderator will document why either in private message or at the place where moderation occurred. This in most cases will be accompanied by reference to which Terms Of Service have been broken. Moderators are allowed to use their discretion in interpretation of the Terms Of Service and operate outside of the Terms Of Service where they see a need to intervene. Where you disagree, or feel unfairness is an issue, see Ajudication.

Ajudication

Whilst AmigaWorld.net moderation tries to be fair and balanced sometimes errors can occur. If you disagree with a specific instance where you have been moderated then please put your complaint to the Webmaster, an Administrator or another moderator for consideration and possible action. Arguments about specific moderation incidents are not tolerated on the public forum, use the adjudication process open to you.

Advertising

Paying sponsors and banner advertisers need not read this section.

AmigaWorld.net provides a classified advertising module which is the only place other than paid for advertising banners that adverts are permitted in. This includes promoting goods and services, links to online auctions or advertising in signatures or through avatars. If in doubt, write a classified advertisment.

Press releases are considered under a different category we accept that companies have a need to propogate news and information. If you consider it newsworthy then submit it as a news item. Our moderation team will either publish it or not depending on their judgement as to its newsworthiness and let you know why they did not publish you if they decide against it. If you are directed that an item is not newsworthy, you will be instructed to either place it on the forums or in the classifieds advertisments.

    

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Bodie_CI5 
Re: Some changes at AmigaWorld.net
Posted on 14-May-2005 13:42:01
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@Seer, you're right

That's, my new nick will be: .






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Re: Some changes at AmigaWorld.net
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So... that means we can get /.'ed on AW as well then eh ?


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Re: Some changes at AmigaWorld.net
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I'm going to play the cynic here...

According to those rules a moderator can moderate a post at whim and providing another mod agrees in adjudication there is no recourse and no ability to complain in public.

This place already has a reputation for dubious moderation, I don't think enshrining it in the rules is going to help much...



One thing that has not been addressed is the moderators should not be able change the meaning of a post. This is what the XXXX incident was all about, he could probably accept being moderated but the moderator also edited the post in such a manner that it looked like he was saying something else.

[EDIT] I thought it best to change the name to XXXX, I'm not interested in a discussion of a particular case, it was only intended as an example.

Last edited by minator on 14-May-2005 at 02:43 PM.


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Re: Some changes at AmigaWorld.net
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@minator

What you think or believe happenned in a specific moderation case is not my concern really, as people believe what they want to believe. Its also not going to get commented on in public by any of the moderation team. Any further attempts to drag a moderation case into the public domain with either the 'truth' or 'falsehoods' thrown in to generate discussion will get moderated, yes even on this thread. If you have a problem with it, or think you know something, then feel free to PM me or any other member of staff to discuss it in private.

If a moderator changes the meaning of a post then it will generate complaints and if the moderation team agree with the complaint it will get sorted out. Right now the moderators will have ( in line with our internal guidelines ) to record the pre-edit version of the post so we will soon see.

Looking more medium term, if you think the moderation team will stoop that low and you feel that the guidelines are not for you and you aren't willing to give it a chance then as Cecelia said, there are plenty of other places out there on the net just a'waiting for you to click into them.

What the reputation is of this forum on other sites I also dont give a monkeys kazoo about and will not paralyse the side moderation here one iota, despite best attempts with those with a genuine problem as much as those who just brinked, then smeared or just smeared based on what they heard someone else say.

Above all, don't take it all too seriously, theres a big wide world outside of here, you can't live out life on a forum.

 
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Re: Some changes at AmigaWorld.net
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@Theodosius

How about Theodopoulos


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I dunno if its just me but I think a "disputes" forum would be a good idea.. Something similar to the free for all forum so it doesnt show up on the front page but could be used to bring up disputes anyone has against the staff of aw.net.

Personally, and Im probably one of few people belive if a moderation occurs in the public domain (i.e a news item or forum topic) then I belive the public also have a right to follow any adjudication going on with regards to that moderation... Kinda like Judge Judy


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@ DaveyD

How about a HHHHUUUGGGEEEE LOL?!


(or rofl in this case? )


In any case Mikey Costas will tell us


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Above all, don't take it all too seriously, theres a big wide world outside of here, you can't live out life on a forum


There is???? I must have taken the blue pill.


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Re: Some changes at AmigaWorld.net
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@minator
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Here on AfterX we DO NOT ALLOW warez nor movie file sharing...DO NOT ASK US how to download files. You will be met with hostility and possibly an untimely end. As always, thank you for sailing AfterX!

Sorry but gary_c's "incident" is all about spreading piracy information and nothing more. AW.net is not the only place where such talk is not tolerated.


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Congratulations wegster, thanks for stepping up.

Welcome back DavyD


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How about Theodopoulos



Excelent choise


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Congratulations


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What you think or believe happenned in a specific moderation case is not my concern really, as people believe what they want to believe. Its also not going to get commented on in public by any of the moderation team. Any further attempts to drag a moderation case into the public domain with either the 'truth' or 'falsehoods' thrown in to generate discussion will get moderated, yes even on this thread. If you have a problem with it, or think you know something, then feel free to PM me or any other member of staff to discuss it in private.


I wasn't trying to discuss a particular case, I've got better things to do and it's been discussed to death already. I've since removed the name.

The point is a simple rule would have clarified things and the situation would not of escalated as it did.

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As for the other points, I'm giving an extreme example. It's meant to be constructive...


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Re: Some changes at AmigaWorld.net
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Congrates wegster and


Happy Moderating!

 
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Congratulations Wegster for your new job.


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Wegster seems like a real good choice to me

>To the tune of 'The Red Flag':

>"The working class can kiss my ass,
>I've got the Foreman's job at last!"

>Congrats wegster

Ah, say it with a smile :)

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The point is a simple rule would have clarified things and the situation would not of escalated as it did.

Let's not go down that road. We could do what-if scenarios until dooms day and nothing will ever get solved.

My solution is to change the policy nobody ever reads anyway to "AW.net moderators/owners/admins/whatever have total power. If you don't like it, move on."

Life it too short for this garbage. Which reminds me, back to compiling...


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> A moderators say is final.

This is a very good decision. This measure alone should improve moderation dramatically.

While we are at it -- if a moderator's say is final, why shouldn't a user's say be final, too? (There's a preview button already. In exchange for the "edit" button you could add a "check spelling" button.) This could help to get rid of yet another big deal of possible confusion that results from short tempers. Or at least try to implement this: It shouldn't be possible to alter posts that people have already started to reply to.


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Welcome wegster! Since your the latest I can finally stop with washing Dave's car every week. That is up to you now.

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@thread/all

That's for the congrats, hopefully I'll do a decent job, as I do already believe AW doesn't need much moderation overall- most of us are fairly well 'behaved' for the most part

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Lol, that was the oddest but funniest thing I've seen all day, thanks!


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