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Re: Entry Level Design Details from ACK Controls and Amiga Posted on 30-Apr-2007 18:46:40
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| I think many would really like to know what the current state of the project is as well. Design phase? Prototype phase? Test first pass? No dates mind you, just an idea how far along things are. _________________ ExecSG Team Lead
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Re: Entry Level Design Details from ACK Controls and Amiga Posted on 30-Apr-2007 18:46:43
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| @kriz
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Hyperion is the programmers of OS4, they are the original developers of OS4. Who on earth is going to maintan and continue develop this ? Amiga Inc. ? Or one man ACK ? |
Assuming Amiga Inc. wins, they'll probably lose some of the contractors. Some others of the contractors may stay on as contractors for AI. There would surely be some learning curve for them to pick up what those bailing out had worked on. Hopefully it won't be that bad, but I would expect to notice a bump in the road. _________________ All glory to the Hypnotoad!
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Re: Entry Level Design Details from ACK Controls and Amiga Posted on 30-Apr-2007 18:49:41
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Hope you all boycott them |
No way.
I'll buy whatever hardware ships with AmigaOS (yes the branded one) if I like the look of it. I've had plenty of time to save up $ since the new product cycle for AmigaOS products seems to be several years. _________________ ExecSG Team Lead
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Re: Entry Level Design Details from ACK Controls and Amiga Posted on 30-Apr-2007 18:51:58
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| YAWN !!!
Pretty crappy specs.
I would never buy it.
Not that it has anything to do with the lawsuit though _________________ AmigaOS or MorphOS on x86 would sell orders of magnitude more than the current, hardware-intensive solutions. And they'd go faster.-- D.Haynie
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Re: Entry Level Design Details from ACK Controls and Amiga Posted on 30-Apr-2007 18:52:08
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i hope they cannot sell (if they produce something first..) nothing. Amiga Inc is the death of the rest of "Amiga" spirit. Hope you all boycott them |
Why?
On the other hand, Sam seems to have more interesting features than this mobo, but is a interesting mobo thoughLast edited by Fransexy on 30-Apr-2007 at 06:54 PM. Last edited by Fransexy on 30-Apr-2007 at 06:53 PM.
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Re: Entry Level Design Details from ACK Controls and Amiga Posted on 30-Apr-2007 18:57:11
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| Edit: See, I wrote this comment saying this: "My question is this. Why are people calling for others to boycott ACK Controls? No mater who sells the hardware they will pay a license fee to Amiga, so why penalize ACK? Also, unless you have definitive details on Amiga and Hyperion's relationship--knowledge that this somehow doesn't benefit Hyperion (whose OS it will run) then this is simply a case of sour grapes. I'm all for activist communities, but sometimes you have to give it a break."
However, I had yet to read the forum message above about the lawsuit. I'm a casual reader of this forum, and I'm not used to Amiga-related news changing so quickly! I might not care too much about rumors (the details of the latest beurocratic in-fighting), but, hell, it's obvious that Amiga shouldn't be given the benefit of the doubt. Last edited by Nihilvor on 30-Apr-2007 at 07:11 PM. Last edited by Nihilvor on 30-Apr-2007 at 07:08 PM.
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Re: Entry Level Design Details from ACK Controls and Amiga Posted on 30-Apr-2007 19:02:35
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| @Hagbard_Celine LOL :) Bring back David Pleasance & Petro T! We have had too few good guys in charge of the Amiga. (I actually still think Fleecy was one of them, but he suffered a bit from ACK-ism (i.e. over-ambition & lack of funds)). _________________ Author of the PortablE programming language. It is pitch black. You are likely to be eaten by a grue...
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Re: Entry Level Design Details from ACK Controls and Amiga Posted on 30-Apr-2007 19:02:45
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| hello,
- new computer without an OS system clearly announced with :(
- the only OS maker, hyperion, in lawsuit with ainc :(
- without AOS4, no computer, ainc !!!
- how selling a computer with aos4 if ainc and hyperion in lawsuit together about amiga trademark ???
Impossible to work together on the amiga world !!!
I'm waiting after a new amiga since years and use amiga classics since 20 years and not happy at all about this new hardware (too small for me, need 1ghz+) and for the actual problems with hyperion.
20/04/07, the end. the amiga community explode. Last edited by Mrodfr on 30-Apr-2007 at 07:08 PM.
_________________ BTW, what you have done for the amiga today ????
-A1200+Mediator+VooDoo3+060/50+96mo+SCSI-KIT -SAM440EP-667mhz-on MapowerKC3000+AOS4.1
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Re: Entry Level Design Details from ACK Controls and Amiga Posted on 30-Apr-2007 19:06:53
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| @ssolie who said Quote:
I think many would really like to know what the current state of the project is as well. Design phase? Prototype phase? Test first pass? No dates mind you, just an idea how far along things are. |
Yes, but Adam has repeatedly ignored all such requests, from 12 months ago all the way up to a few days ago. I don't know why, beyond he said he wouldn't announce anything until it's ready. But I doubt today's announcement counts, as he was likely pressured into that by Amiga Inc (so that they could begin their legal proceedings with evidence they want OS4 to succeed). So IMHO it likely still isn't finished, although that could mean anything. _________________ Author of the PortablE programming language. It is pitch black. You are likely to be eaten by a grue...
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Re: Entry Level Design Details from ACK Controls and Amiga Posted on 30-Apr-2007 19:08:16
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| Way to go Amiga and ACK - keep the good news coming!!
I will surely buy the "small one" just to make sure i get a OS4 capable system. _________________ On Planet Boing Trevor is God
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Re: Entry Level Design Details from ACK Controls and Amiga Posted on 30-Apr-2007 19:08:24
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| @Plaz
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Just for you, go ahead and add that EU200 surcharge.
Good question though. I hope it's a true exchange rate for those with euros.
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I'm offended, we don't use those damn Johnny-Foreigner Euro thingies here in the mother country I'll have you know! _________________ Ya Husayn!
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Re: Entry Level Design Details from ACK Controls and Amiga Posted on 30-Apr-2007 19:11:36
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| Hondo_DK: Way to go ? Suing the OS programmers ? ANd releasing some hardware without the original developers ? This is really what i would say is NOT: Way to go. |
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Re: Entry Level Design Details from ACK Controls and Amiga Posted on 30-Apr-2007 19:15:21
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| @Nihilvor I think the suggestion is to boycott Amiga Inc & ACK until the lawsuit with Hyperion is resolved, so as to not support Amiga Inc. Why not support them? Well, perhaps the fact that they've persistently refused all attempts at licensed h/w for OS4, after Eyetech/AmigaOne, while Hyperion have only ever tried to move OS4 forward? (The current ACK deal may be a red herring - we will have to see what happens.) _________________ Author of the PortablE programming language. It is pitch black. You are likely to be eaten by a grue...
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Re: Entry Level Design Details from ACK Controls and Amiga Posted on 30-Apr-2007 19:18:00
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| Would have been a good announcement under different circumstances. No sale from me until Hyperions blessing!!! Thanks Ainc for this latest rift, congratulations you have now won the award for the most incompetent owner in Amigas history! _________________ 4000T/BFG9060 CD32/Elsat ProModule, TF360 CD32/ Edu's CD32 <> A1200 Adapter, Vampire V2 CD32/ FMV Module
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Re: Entry Level Design Details from ACK Controls and Amiga Posted on 30-Apr-2007 19:18:39
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| Gawd, what a bunch of weiners! Whining and pining for an Amiga, and when you get one, you flip the bird and try to kill it. I'm 47 and will buy what I like, even if it is a smaller model of the 2 being worked on. When buying Amiga stuff, I've always gone the official route, and will continue to do so. At least I'll be able to enjoy using a computer again, while the weiners continue to gnash their teeth and gripe about anything that does anything. _________________ Regards,
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Re: Entry Level Design Details from ACK Controls and Amiga Posted on 30-Apr-2007 19:21:34
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| First, there is no reason this is even past the "post it in a forum phase" let alone layout, design, build, or even test ONE board phase.
Second, this more than $100 per 100mhz. I think I bought my first 400mhz CPU/Board for $150 10 YEARS ago.
Are we still destined to be the laughing stock of the computing world?
$500 is an AWSOME price for this thing from the POV of a company (companies) planning on selling less than 1000 boards EVER as a hobby project. For that we could/should all be greatful, but ACK/Amiga Inc. WANT US TO BELIEVE they are building many 1000s of these blah blah blah, well I call Bull Sh*t on them and their statements.
"Amiga, Inc. is the world’s premier provider of multimedia enabling technologies. " I also ask this SIMPLE question. If the news is AGAIN full of more lies, how can we believe that ANY of it is TRUE??
"ACK Software Controls, Inc. specializes in the area of embedded controls design for use in automation systems where low-power consumption and reliability is an absolute must." They do? Where's their website? ACK can provide complete turn-key solutions to customers. They can? Where's their website?
AOS4 code leaked so we can port to x86/PPC emulator as a last resort Hyperion? Just kidding But seriously think about it... _________________ A3000D (16mhz, 2MB Chip, 4MB Fast, SCSI (300+MB), SuperGen Genlock, Kick 3.1) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Back in my day, we didn't have water. We only had Oxygen & Hydrogen, & we'd just shove 'em together
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Re: Entry Level Design Details from ACK Controls and Amiga Posted on 30-Apr-2007 19:22:02
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Re: Entry Level Design Details from ACK Controls and Amiga Posted on 30-Apr-2007 19:23:38
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| The low entry board sounds just like the one Troika had... Also... didn't Ack "lose" one of Troika's dev boards...
IIRC a beta board was sent to him for bugs to be ironed out, and so that OS 4 could be ported.. but wait.. I was never meant to mention this. Nor was I meant to mention the photo's which he mysteriously..
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Re: Entry Level Design Details from ACK Controls and Amiga Posted on 30-Apr-2007 19:35:30
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Would have been a good announcement under different circumstances. No sale from me until Hyperions blessing!!!Thanks Ainc for this latest rift, congratulations you have now won the award for the most incompetent owner in Amigas history! |
I totally agree. _________________ ikir
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Re: Entry Level Design Details from ACK Controls and Amiga Posted on 30-Apr-2007 19:38:11
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| Around Ł245 for an entry-level, fully equipped Amiga system? Not a bad price at all, assuming they go for a straight US-UK exchange. Shame about the price the rest of the community seems to be paying, but I'll reserve judgement until the end of the legalities. _________________ After a decade away from the scene, I am back!
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