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Re: iODBC - Indipendent Open DataBase Connectivity for Amiga Posted on 11-Feb-2010 20:27:14
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ODBC provides a standard interface so that applications can interact with repositories of data using industry conventions. |
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Re: iODBC - Indipendent Open DataBase Connectivity for Amiga Posted on 11-Feb-2010 20:38:08
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I'll have a go at explaining this. Many applications need to store data in databases. There are many different databases to choose from, such as MySQL, PostgreSQL, Sqlite, Microsoft SQL server, etc. Despite most of the servers using SQL, there are enough differences that they are not 100% compatible.
IODBC provides a method of using any type of database server with your application through one interface. Think of it this way, you write your database access code once, and it can be used with any database server for which there is an iODBC driver. Otherwise you'd have to write extra code for each database type that you want to support.
This is great for developers, as it saves them time. For users, it means that they can whatever server type they want. This may not seem important, but if you're running a business, that means having one database server for everything, instead of having to install MySQL for app x, Microsoft SQL server for app y, etc.
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Re: iODBC - Independent Open DataBase Connectivity for Amiga Posted on 11-Feb-2010 21:07:26
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Re: iODBC - Indipendent Open DataBase Connectivity for Amiga Posted on 11-Feb-2010 21:10:33
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| Ok then ! Great, I guess
So to name a few apps that might take advantage of this: Office apps, bank acount programs, office server programs, programs that link guests to diner reservations and hotel rooms or something...
No apps like wordprocessors or 'normal' databases and inet browsers then ?
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Re: iODBC - Indipendent Open DataBase Connectivity for Amiga Posted on 11-Feb-2010 21:31:20
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| @metalheart In general, the most "normal" database in all the world, it's SQL dumps from mysql for unix users/admin/server owners, and so on. All the forums (and i think that one, on amigaworld) use mySQL. Amigans.net and Os4depot.net too. All the time when i "work" i have deal with mysql and dumps from mysql. I think for now million (really 10000000) apps use SQL databases (mostly mySQL). Have suppoer of it on amigaos4 in any way are great step. It can bring someday aos4 on the "business" level.
SQL it's just a programming language, support of which have those apps which mentions before (mysql, psql, etc). When you need use REALLY BIG amount of text data, which need to handle (forum posts, milions remarks about users, thousand on anything you can imagine), then, databases is comming, ans SQL language are for it.
So, if just say how it good for user who want to watch movie and play in game: i think there is nothing for it in general. But, it's very usable for anyone who want to do normal work related to administration, catalogs stuff and such.
Databases which can be handled by SQL language are not just text files, it's tables, tables and many tables, beetwen which you can navigate interactivity, or in real time, or from any code (perl, php, does not matter which).
The conclusion: it's for real business and real work. Not for fun. Last edited by kas1e on 11-Feb-2010 at 09:37 PM.
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Re: iODBC - Indipendent Open DataBase Connectivity for Amiga Posted on 11-Feb-2010 21:37:55
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So to name a few apps that might take advantage of this: Office apps, bank acount programs, office server programs, programs that link guests to diner reservations and hotel rooms or something...
No apps like wordprocessors or 'normal' databases and inet browsers then ?
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Almost. Word processors and browsers don't really need it, but I took a peek at the Google Gears code (it allows web apps that use it to work offline), and it looks like it uses Sqlite to store stuff.
As the amount of data that we deal with gets bigger and bigger, databases are going to be used more and more.
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Re: iODBC - Independent Open DataBase Connectivity for Amiga Posted on 11-Feb-2010 21:51:07
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| afxgroup how is things going on with the apache server,and the gnash npni plug-in thing |
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Re: iODBC - Indipendent Open DataBase Connectivity for Amiga Posted on 11-Feb-2010 21:54:52
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I have copied iODBC drawer and its contents SYS:Libs/ODBC and tried running SQLManager
But it doesn't work with the message: "Failed to load shared object libodbc.so"
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I tried running iODBC from shell, GUI appears and it fails to load any iODBC drivers when I click "Add"
I am running OS4.1 Update1 on mA1 512MB Last edited by SinanG on 11-Feb-2010 at 09:58 PM.
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Re: iODBC - Indipendent Open DataBase Connectivity for Amiga Posted on 11-Feb-2010 23:18:07
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| I feel so giiidddy!! I feeeeeeeeeeeeeel sooooooooo giiiidddy!! Oooh...ooooh...my head is swimming fast * sits down and holds his head * oh the the great pleasurable sensation! I downloaded the program and tried to open odbc.ini on AmigaSYS 4 AGA on WinUAE and it prompted a dialog box:
Please insert volume AmigaOS4.1 in any drive
what a pleasurable sensation! What a feeling..hehe!! By the end of this year I am going to upgrade and buy AmigaOS 4.1 system. |
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Re: iODBC - Indipendent Open DataBase Connectivity for Amiga Posted on 11-Feb-2010 23:32:49
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| @SinanG Quote:
"Failed to load shared object libodbc.so" |
Copy all #?.so files from the iODBC drawer into your sys:Sobjs/ dir.
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if there is away we can have a developing tool like Visual Studio |
Like CodeBench.
@afxgroup OMG ! Wow ! Somebody "made"/ported ODBC to AOS. Great job ! And I think this is important !
Last edited by Tomppeli on 11-Feb-2010 at 11:39 PM.
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Re: iODBC - Indipendent Open DataBase Connectivity for Amiga Posted on 11-Feb-2010 23:39:07
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| i think that only libodbc.so is needed in SObjs: drawer. The other one could remain in the SYS:Libs/ODBC drawer (i think..) BTW try to copy every single lib the system shows to you
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Re: iODBC - Independent Open DataBase Connectivity for Amiga Posted on 12-Feb-2010 0:36:19
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| Fantastic work!
It's infrastructure porting like this which is truly important at the moment imho.
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Re: iODBC - Indipendent Open DataBase Connectivity for Amiga Posted on 12-Feb-2010 3:25:26
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| Does CodeBench support .NET and GUI developing tool like Visual Studio? Thanks in advance. |
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Re: iODBC - Independent Open DataBase Connectivity for Amiga Posted on 12-Feb-2010 4:41:36
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| This is great! Amiga hasn't has a good database program since superbase. This will help ween me off Microsoft Access, which is way too expensive for home use. _________________ X5000 / microA1(OS4.1 FE U2) / CodeBench / Imagine / Blender Lightwave 2019 / Microsoft Visual C++
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Re: iODBC - Independent Open DataBase Connectivity for Amiga Posted on 12-Feb-2010 4:45:55
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| Awesome achievement!!! A BIG step on the right direction for our beloved platform!
THANK YOU!
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Re: iODBC - Indipendent Open DataBase Connectivity for Amiga Posted on 12-Feb-2010 5:48:48
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| @afxgroup
I already copied all #.so libs to SObjs: but it doesn't work :( _________________ AmigaOS4 Beta-Tester ---------------------------------- Amiga X5000 8GB Radeon RX 560 Amiga A1222 2GB Radeon RX 550 Sam 460 2GB RadeonRX 550
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Re: iODBC - Indipendent Open DataBase Connectivity for Amiga Posted on 12-Feb-2010 7:01:03
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| Ummmm... yeah... but.... this iODBC thing is for talking to database engines running on other platforms isn't it? It's not, as far as I can see, for accessing database engines running on OS4 is it? Are there and database engines for OS4 that this iODBC thing can access? I think people are getting the impression that you're suddenly going to be able to use an MS-Access MDB file, or a SQL-Server database file, actually sitting on OS4, or is that what it does? _________________ Leo Nigro, CTO Commodore USA, LLC Opinions expressed are my own and not those of C= USA. Commodore/AMIGA "Beautiful, High-Performance, Home Computers for Creativity and Entertainment."
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Re: iODBC - Independent Open DataBase Connectivity for Amiga Posted on 12-Feb-2010 8:20:38
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| Great! That's a very important step for Amiga development! _________________ God created Paula so that Allister Brimble and Dave Whittaker could do music
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Re: iODBC - Indipendent Open DataBase Connectivity for Amiga Posted on 12-Feb-2010 8:57:15
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| @BigBentheAussie Yes you are right, actually it's for connecting to a DB which is running un another platform, but when we have MySQL ported to AOS4 I hope we can use iODBC to connect to a server on AOS4. For the MySQL port look here |
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Re: iODBC - Independent Open DataBase Connectivity for Amiga Posted on 12-Feb-2010 9:34:27
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| @Foody Why would we need .NET support? what will that bring our platform and why not Java? i myself would prefer a C++ oriented framework like Qt framework.
A RAD studio is needed yes, and i hope Codebench will become that.
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