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Re: Call for Amiga Developers from A-EON Technology Posted on 27-Oct-2015 6:40:49
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Why anything AeonKit/OS4 related has to have malicious intent to you is beyond me. |
He's just a lonely guy with lots of spare time in his hands and trying hard to become the new Dan Brown... he's gracing us by throwing excerpts from his latest novel in each and every OS4 related thread. _________________ Proud Amigan since 1987 Owner of various Commodore and a SAM440ep\OS4.1FE See them on http://retro.furinkan.org/
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Re: Call for Amiga Developers from A-EON Technology Posted on 27-Oct-2015 7:18:13
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| I think that for all the talk of supporting all camps there has been very very little to show for it. MorphOS on the X5000 comes to mind but that's about it. They said they would consider porting PPaint to AROS and MorphOS but then nothing. Not even a poll to see if enough people are interested. If you plan to support all camps, then do so. If not, don't make such promises. My 2 cents. _________________ Amiga Forum - Sweden's best Amiga Magazine
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Re: Call for Amiga Developers from A-EON Technology Posted on 27-Oct-2015 8:07:17
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| @Yasu
While I have no idea about the actual situation workload wise and how much they have to balance Amiga development vs a "real job", I can see that time is a scarse resource. Ssolie was quite frank about that; getting home from their paying job and allocating as much time as possible to their fun hobby aka Amiga development. Im sure quite a few of them would LOVE to spend all their time developing for the OS, hardware driver support and versions for all platforms. Once you have to pay the rent, mortgage, loan etc you realise that you better hold on to your paying job just a bit longer
Take Trevors comment about Prisma Soundcard; hardware done, but Matthew keeps tweaking the software side. I have no idea how many projects Matthew is working on, but I have no problem understanding that days, weeks and months passes by quickly.
If time is a scarse resource, you tend to focus your efforts, and the focal point of AeonKit has been AOS. Last edited by Overflow on 27-Oct-2015 at 08:08 AM.
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Re: Call for Amiga Developers from A-EON Technology Posted on 27-Oct-2015 8:21:26
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| @overflow
That is pretty much understood. But considering that when one MorphOS programmer offered to port PPaint for free he got the cold shoulder, so my concern is not at ease yet. Last edited by Yasu on 27-Oct-2015 at 08:21 AM.
_________________ Amiga Forum - Sweden's best Amiga Magazine
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Re: Call for Amiga Developers from A-EON Technology Posted on 27-Oct-2015 9:23:38
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| Yasu, alternatively everyone can do the same. Producing / buying exclusives. Depending on success you could discuss a exchange later on. Like app a for app b. You can't force anyone to cooperate but you can learn to be patient and some problems disappear by time.
Of course they try to make os4 and so the hardware more attractive. This is ok imho _________________ AROS Broadway - AEROS - Aminux - AmiCloud - indieGO! Appstore - AmiWallet - VAN lossless video codec - AMC Amiga media Center -KrypUnite - LibertyNet - MinX - amigaNX
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Re: Call for Amiga Developers from A-EON Technology Posted on 27-Oct-2015 10:18:05
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| Great! Keep going Amiga! There are a lot of talented Amigapeople around. Just finishing a humour sign with DPV and then music and then connecting a game with the serial..
Waiting for the Good Golden Years again as many;) |
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Yasu
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Re: Call for Amiga Developers from A-EON Technology Posted on 27-Oct-2015 11:04:35
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| I have no problem with them being AmigaOS 4 exclusive. I have a problem that they claim they want to support all camps if they really don't. Last edited by Yasu on 27-Oct-2015 at 11:06 AM. Last edited by Yasu on 27-Oct-2015 at 11:05 AM.
_________________ Amiga Forum - Sweden's best Amiga Magazine
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Re: Call for Amiga Developers from A-EON Technology Posted on 27-Oct-2015 11:07:25
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| I would say it this way... if you want to develop cross-platform it is a kind of compromise, you can only support what is available everywhere. The more you use specific features of a platform (including GUI technology) the more difficult is porting. Also even common parts of the API are similar but not identical so when you do not know the differences or are not interested in it then porting also becomes difficult. A-eon is mainly interested in OS4, Amigakit in OS 3.X and 4.X for commercial reasons. Aros (including 68k) and MorphOS have differences compared to 3.x and 4.X and would need additional work (means money) to be supported so it might be a economic and strategic decision not to support it. But then they should simply leave it out of their press releases. |
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Re: Call for Amiga Developers from A-EON Technology Posted on 27-Oct-2015 11:08:13
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Re: Call for Amiga Developers from A-EON Technology Posted on 28-Oct-2015 9:50:53
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| @phoenixkonsole
nice! I really think that some sort of fusion/exchange from the 2 stores apps was a really good idea!
More apps/devs more choice! _________________ Simone"Tuxedo"Monsignori, Perugia, ITALY.
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Re: Call for Amiga Developers from A-EON Technology Posted on 28-Oct-2015 13:52:06
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That's my point: they say it a lot, but doesn't really do much to show it. Like porting AmiStore to MorphOS and AROS or give the community some ways to get their softwares ported. So for me it sounds like "Yes, of course we want to support everything, but we are not actually gonna do it." _________________ Amiga Forum - Sweden's best Amiga Magazine
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Re: Call for Amiga Developers from A-EON Technology Posted on 28-Oct-2015 20:51:13
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"Yes, of course we want to support everything, but we are not actually gonna do it." |
On the other hand, we get mos developers bragging about their superior apps that os4 users will never have. The road goes both ways, funny how that works... _________________ Hate tends to make you look stupid...
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Re: Call for Amiga Developers from A-EON Technology Posted on 28-Oct-2015 22:20:54
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| How is their "bragging" relevant here? I can't remember any any of them claiming to support all the NG platforms, but not actually doing it. _________________ This is just like television, only you can see much further.
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Re: Call for Amiga Developers from A-EON Technology Posted on 28-Oct-2015 22:35:38
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| @Yasu
Sigh.
For years people complained nothing was ever done or communicated.
Now, that things happens and are communicated, we have to nitpick on every little detail. |
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Re: Call for Amiga Developers from A-EON Technology Posted on 29-Oct-2015 1:42:05
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| @overflow what happens? whats being communicated? i just see hollow statements so far as usual. and yet more smoke screen, marketing speech, promises without merit, banning and eradicating traces of unpleasant questions on buy off sites, simply the procedure as every year and you want us to believe in a change simply for the hope of it? good luck.. |
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Re: Call for Amiga Developers from A-EON Technology Posted on 29-Oct-2015 4:57:49
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| @wawa
You are one grumpy aros user, Speaking of "smoke screans", how many more years till aros saves us all? If its going to turn me into a grumpy old men like you, I'd pass.
@thread
I'm not one to bash other OS's, but this guy is one sandwich short of a picnic _________________ Hate tends to make you look stupid...
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Re: Call for Amiga Developers from A-EON Technology Posted on 29-Oct-2015 8:05:34
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I'm not one to bash other OS's, but this guy is one sandwich short of a picnic |
He is a good candidate to became this year "Grand Master Of Gossip" and he is working hard to win the prize. Now you know. _________________ SAM440EP-FLEX @ 733 Mhz, AmigaOS 4.1 Update 1
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Re: Call for Amiga Developers from A-EON Technology Posted on 29-Oct-2015 8:46:19
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| That dude ( wawa) make me want to use my shotgun on my aroscomputer Last edited by eder on 29-Oct-2015 at 08:47 AM.
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Re: Call for Amiga Developers from A-EON Technology Posted on 29-Oct-2015 8:59:29
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| Yes never wanted to try both others as they are so "Put Your words here;)"
A hammer would do the job too or co-operate so all will earn more. Last edited by PR on 29-Oct-2015 at 09:00 AM.
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Re: Call for Amiga Developers from A-EON Technology Posted on 29-Oct-2015 9:58:10
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| Yes? You want a discussion about Aros?
We can have that... (even if it is senseless) Last edited by OlafS25 on 29-Oct-2015 at 10:14 AM.
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