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He has a point though.

Although it is nice that a couple more people can jump in on OS 4 soon because of the extra few boards, it doesn't actually solve anything. We still need an actively produced motherboard before the end of this year.

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Yes we do need new hardware to be produced soon. But this is good news because it means that a few more developers will be able to have OS4 to develop on. We desperately need developers to write/port software for our platform so any extra machines that become available is a good thing. For example, maybe the authors of Papyrus could finally get an A1 so that the Papyrus port can finally begin. There are other projects waiting for a machine as well.

When new hardware really does become available, there should be more software available for users to run on the new machines, because of these extra A1s.

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realize

I'm just not recommending people buy refurbed prototypes without warranties. There is a really sweet A1 micro on ebay that looks nice though

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Poster: realize Date: 17-Jul-2006 22:05:54
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If you are going to drop that much on a board, you can get a whole Open Desktop Workstation Pegasos for $799, with case, ram, hd, and cdrw drive!

Isn't this just a bit off topic?

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Isn't this just a bit off topic?

It sure is.

Realize: You are entitled to you opinion. That's not the issue. The issue is placement of said opinion in threads where it is either OT or simply isn't welcome. Do you honestly think anybody in this thread IS NOT AWARE of the fact that you can buy pegII's?

And where did you see ANY mention that these boards would be without a warranty?

C'mon bro... stop trolling. Play nice with us.

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Ikir Guess what? I dont sell pegs. Its called "reality" lets try to live in it for once...

Instead of that reply you could have just pointed out you are no longer a dealer and you recently moved.

Dated March 21, 2006:
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Magnetic Systems the first North American Pegasos dealer is moving to LA and is blowing out Pegasos inventory! Here is your chance to pic up some upgrades for your Pegasos...

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I'm not trying to bother you. Just trying to wake everyone up. Don't you guys understand that all these dancing bannanas at vapor ware just encourage people to do it? Its cool though I'll relent.

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With no warranty i'm sure.

I strongly suspect that you did not check with the distributor of these boards on that issue. I strongly suspect that you did not check with the each of the dealers selling these boards on that issue. I strongly suspect that you are just advertising for the competition. I strongly suspect that you are just trying to steal customers from Amiga hardware dealers. I strongly suspect that you are just spreading FUD as usual.

I, however, admit that I am not sure of any of this.

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Yeah, i'm sure there is a warranty with refurbished repaired boards...

30 days or so maybe if you are lucky.
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@Doodoohead

Not to mention he referred to the boards as XE's when they are Micros.
Now he is using the term "vapor" in his post.
Nice.
Since several people went to the trouble of trying to fill a gap here and
provide replacement parts since last year. Parts that include, but not limited
to these Micro boards as well as the CPU upgrades/replacements.
Frankly it's a slap in the face to the people who do the real work around here.

But I suppose there are a lot of people here for which English is not their
native language, so we must be forgiving.

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@ realize

i dont think it matters that these are "repaired" boards, the point is there is hardware available to purchase for those who want it and dont mind paying for it, its not like those who bought NEW A1's got much of a warrenty anyway and im sure people will buy whats made available knowing full well the warrenty situation and its nobody elses place to put them down for choosing to.

Its not about the boards themselfs, its about being able to run OS4. People have been waiting for that for years and this is currently the only way to do it. People are well aware that a full peg system would cost them less but it wont run OS4 and never will so pointing it out over and over is just going to create a bad feeling towards you.

For those lucky enough to get one of these boards when they are available it will be worth every penny, im sure. so please stop pointing out what everybody knows but has no relevence to the topic at hand. it just makes u look like a troll and nothing more.

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Why not just tell the truth? You do not know one way or the other whether there is a warranty. Your baseless opinion being passed off as fact that you "know for sure" is a lie. Feel free to inform us how you "know for sure" that which you don't inquire about. At least my "foolish commenatry" is the truth.

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@realize
This is a news item thread. It can be used to comment on the news item. It is not to be used for trolling purposes nor to put forwards your view on anything other than that news item.

You are adding nothing that can be construed as constructive to the news item thread.

Please do respect the author of this thread by keeping to facts, not verbal gesticulations.

Thank you.

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With that said, I think it'd behoove someone to give a dealer a jingle and find out just exactly what, if any, warranty is provided with these boards. From what I've seen over the last few years "reliability" ain't exactly a watchword for the A1's...from batteries that die in months (versus the years I've had batteries on other systems) to boards that won't work with certain combinations of RAM, and not even to get in to DMA, USB and onboard sound issues, the Amiga 1 in any flavor doesn't exactly have a stellar track record.

So finding out what kind of warranty these boards will have is a must, IMO.

Moreover, who will honor it? Eyetech? They're as dead as a doornail as far as anyone can tell.

So, relevant to this thread: as these are refurb boards, what kind of support can be expected?

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as been said allready, thats up to the shop selling the item from where u bought it.

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I've built 3 A1 XEs I know the technology, not only that i've been to Motorolla Labs and talked to THEM about the Teron boards (aka Amiga 1) I dont like the idea of people selling something to Amigans without warranty for hundreds of dollars. Is this note AMIGAWORLD.net or is it Amiga1.net?

realize

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I do realize it appears trollish posting this, but to get the community all excited about boards that were bad and fixed and sell at retail with no warranty is not good imho.

*note : you notice there are no dealers saying : no the boards are great, decent price, and have a warranty - just users saying i'm a troll. If that happens I'll eat my words and apologize. Let us see what happens

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I surely think it's nice that some people who really want an OS4 capable machine maybe (!) can buy it.

is it a step forward ? no it's not. More developers that can have a board now ? I doubt that. Why would they invest in a developerboard when it are maybe the last OS4 boards ever ? Do not get me wrong... I do think powervixen will be reality, but anything else I doubt for now. If you really want things to be developed for OS4 then DO NOT BUY these boards if you are just a user. But do not worry, I offered my µA1 and our webmaster (amigaclub.be) also offered his amigaone for use by a developer and we never got any reaction.....

Long story in short: no new boards ----> no development. For now these boards are just "wanna-have-it's",... just like my µA1

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@DungeonDealer

The MicroA1s have none of those problems, except being a bit finnicky about memory.

Your comments appear to be regarding the XEs, which is not what is being offered.

Realize said something about these being prototypes as well, which I'd accept against the SEs and even the XEs, but not the Micros.

Chris

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