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Re: New TvR for TV tuner in Mediator Posted on 27-Nov-2004 14:09:01
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| I wonder when people will start to write drivers for OS4... _________________ Philippe 'Elwood' Ferrucci Sam460 1.10 Ghz AmigaOS 4 betatester Amiga Translator Organisation
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Re: New TvR for TV tuner in Mediator Posted on 27-Nov-2004 14:50:01
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| elwood:Troll!
well you could always email him and ask him about it
he aint that far away from you so....
Mediator roolz and i wish we had the same support for os4 (on all...not just classic) regarding spider, tvcards etc.. _________________ See my blog and collection website! . https://www.blog.amigaguru.com
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Re: New TvR for TV tuner in Mediator Posted on 27-Nov-2004 16:13:08
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| I agree, the Mediator is the best PCI expansion board available for classic Amiga. No matter what you want to say about Elbox I don't think anyone can deny that they make the best hardware for the Amiga.
I would like to see support in OS4 for most of Elbox's expansions as my main A1200 is mostly Elbox based - powerflyers Mediator etc
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Re: New TvR for TV tuner in Mediator Posted on 27-Nov-2004 16:49:57
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I totally agree. _________________ ikir
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Re: New TvR for TV tuner in Mediator Posted on 27-Nov-2004 16:57:16
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| I wonder when the MicroA1 will be sold worldwide, here in Sweden isn't there any company that sells it, and I'm about to start coding on OS4, but a bit hard when it's impossible to get an MicroA1... |
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Re: New TvR for TV tuner in Mediator Posted on 27-Nov-2004 17:19:16
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| @the slash:
µa1 C aint far away from sweden i guess , just be abit more patient as its not like its gone global allready.. only avail to a few shops/countrys atm.
Swedish Amiga Shops will et it for sure.. _________________ See my blog and collection website! . https://www.blog.amigaguru.com
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Re: New TvR for TV tuner in Mediator Posted on 27-Nov-2004 18:45:26
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| I have nothing against Elbox. It was a hint! hint! call to every third party coders out there. And I give Elbox an interesting hint about one potential customer (me) and his needs. Last edited by elwood on 27-Nov-2004 at 06:45 PM.
_________________ Philippe 'Elwood' Ferrucci Sam460 1.10 Ghz AmigaOS 4 betatester Amiga Translator Organisation
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Re: New TvR for TV tuner in Mediator Posted on 27-Nov-2004 21:57:40
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Re: New TvR for TV tuner in Mediator Posted on 28-Nov-2004 14:17:12
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| Yes I e-mailed them a while back to ask if they were going ot port the contents of their MM CD (basically a load of drivers) to OS4, so we could buy it, but never got a reply.
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Re: New TvR for TV tuner in Mediator Posted on 28-Nov-2004 19:39:44
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| @elwood
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I wonder when people will start to write drivers for OS4... | TVR should work (in emulation) under AmigaOS4 in the Classic Amigas with Mediator and a TV card. |
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Re: New TvR for TV tuner in Mediator Posted on 28-Nov-2004 19:45:29
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so, what are we saying here? no one has tried this on an AmigaONE or uA1???? |
The TvR program is GUI for Elbox's TV driver (called tv.library), which controls the TV card fitted in the Mediator PCI slot. There are no AmigaOne drivers for any TV cards, AFAIK.
Articia S does not allow using a TV PCI card if TV screen is to be shown on the gfx card sitting on the Articia' AGP bus. This problem is well known from Pegasos I. It would mean that it will never be possible to use the TV PCI card in uA1 due to the fact that in uA1 the Radeon 7000 chip is connected to the Articia' AGP bus. |
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Re: New TvR for TV tuner in Mediator Posted on 29-Nov-2004 0:41:50
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Articia S does not allow using a TV PCI card if TV screen is to be shown on the gfx card sitting on the Articia' AGP bus. This problem is well known from Pegasos I. It would mean that it will never be possible to use the TV PCI card in uA1 due to the fact that in uA1 the Radeon 7000 chip is connected to the Articia' AGP bus. |
Please don't extrapolate from experience of the Peg I to the A1. A number of A1 users, including myself, have used a TV card in conjunction with a AGP card. |
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Re: New TvR for TV tuner in Mediator Posted on 29-Nov-2004 11:34:45
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Eh... AFAIK. people are successfully using TV-tuner card with AmigaOne and AGP gfx.card There is also a thread about using tv-tuner in AmigaOne somewhere here. Last edited by miksuh on 29-Nov-2004 at 11:36 AM. Last edited by miksuh on 29-Nov-2004 at 11:35 AM.
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Re: New TvR for TV tuner in Mediator Posted on 29-Nov-2004 11:44:40
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| I wonder how do you implement features like these using Elbox tv-drivers ?
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* seeking radio/TV stations * Stopping (freezing) TV frames and saving TV screenshots to the hard drive |
I have no idea how to implement those.. Would you like to help me with those issues ? I would like to add something like this to my own application.Last edited by miksuh on 29-Nov-2004 at 11:47 AM. Last edited by miksuh on 29-Nov-2004 at 11:46 AM. Last edited by miksuh on 29-Nov-2004 at 11:45 AM.
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Re: New TvR for TV tuner in Mediator Posted on 29-Nov-2004 12:04:47
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Please don't extrapolate from experience of the Peg I to the A1. A number of A1 users, including myself, have used a TV card in conjunction with a AGP card. |
I did not write that using a TV card in AmigaOne (under Linux) was impossible. AmigaOne was equipped with one 66MHz PCI slot sitting on the SAME bus as the AGP graphic card. In this slot TV card should work in conjunction with an AGP card.
As I wrote the problem would exist in uA1 where the PCI slot is connected to the OTHER Articia S bus than Radeon 7000 chip. (Pegasos I issue.) In Pegasos, the problem resulted in image freezing after just a few frames of the TV signal. |
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Re: New TvR for TV tuner in Mediator Posted on 29-Nov-2004 13:28:13
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Re: New TvR for TV tuner in Mediator Posted on 29-Nov-2004 15:02:41
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| Ehi tjaoz, we will see, MicroA1 isn't Peg1 _________________ ikir
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Re: New TvR for TV tuner in Mediator Posted on 30-Nov-2004 13:21:56
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Thanks for this link. I have just read this discussion. The problem is that the TV driver discussed in this thread does not support direct TV data transfer between the TV card and the graphic card, as the Elbox' driver does. The discussed driver makes that TV card send TV data to the main system memory and then the CPU copies the data from the system memory to the memory of the graphic card. This results in very high CPU load, while in the Elbox solution the Amiga CPU is not loaded at all. The Articia S problem I wrote about in the Pegasos I case is related to the PCI to AGP bus transfers, which are not activated in the discussed driver as yet. |
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Re: New TvR for TV tuner in Mediator Posted on 30-Nov-2004 13:25:41
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Ehi tjaoz, we will see, MicroA1 isn't Peg1 |
Hi Ikir, I'm afraid that Articia S is the same. But let's hope that Ariticia Sa (or P) will finally be free from these issues. |
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