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Re: AmigaOS DevContest Kicks off! Posted on 14-Feb-2005 14:05:30
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Re: AmigaOS DevContest Kicks off! Posted on 14-Feb-2005 14:06:05
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| Allright, Let´s kick it.
Hope this will generate some really useful apps.
Hmm time until Dec2005, better getting started then.
Great initiative btw. _________________ Life is fragile enough, why use windows on top of that? 
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Re: AmigaOS DevContest Kicks off! Posted on 14-Feb-2005 14:15:44
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| Cool - shame that it doesn't give me enough time to buy an A1, learn to code in C, and to develop and test an application... 
Good luck to all participants, though! _________________
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Re: AmigaOS DevContest Kicks off! Posted on 14-Feb-2005 14:36:55
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| This is a great initiative, well done to the organisers. I look forward to any handy apps that come out of this. _________________ A600 OS3.1 ACA620 | '030 A1200 OS3.5 | µA1-C 750GX OS4.1 | SAM460 OS4.1 | '040 A3000 OS2.1 | Christian Aid |
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Re: AmigaOS DevContest Kicks off! Posted on 14-Feb-2005 14:40:35
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| Please define "OS4 Team". I understand it means core developers but what about betatesters?  |
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Re: AmigaOS DevContest Kicks off! Posted on 14-Feb-2005 14:45:28
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| Good point. It means OS4 "Developers". Betatesters can enter the contest but they shouldn't stop betatesting, ok ?  Website fixed, thanks.
@other Thanks for your support. Spread the word in every websites you know! And of course if you want to contribute even with a few $$, that would be cool too.  Last edited by elwood on 14-Feb-2005 at 02:57 PM. Last edited by elwood on 14-Feb-2005 at 02:55 PM.
_________________ Philippe 'Elwood' Ferrucci Sam460 1.10 Ghz AmigaOS 4 betatester Amiga Translator Organisation
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Re: AmigaOS DevContest Kicks off! Posted on 14-Feb-2005 15:09:23
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| yes, we could all donate via paypal the 2nd and 3rd prize. To make it more interresting for coders to join the contest. _________________ If you need music for your productions, or graphics for your creations, feel free to contact me. also check out my music at http://www.contrazt.no/records.html
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Re: AmigaOS DevContest Kicks off! Posted on 14-Feb-2005 15:13:59
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| You're right. This is planned and be addressed soon. _________________ Philippe 'Elwood' Ferrucci Sam460 1.10 Ghz AmigaOS 4 betatester Amiga Translator Organisation
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Re: AmigaOS DevContest Kicks off! Posted on 14-Feb-2005 15:15:35
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| Excellent idea! 10/10 mate!
Now I just need to hone my programming skills and come up with something really special.
Kind regards,
Francis _________________
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Re: AmigaOS DevContest Kicks off! Posted on 14-Feb-2005 15:16:02
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You must code under GCC (available in the OS4 SDK) or VBCC (available here). |
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Use OS4-specific features (hooks, reaction classes, vitualised memory...etc). It means you must use Reaction. |
ahhh I refuse to use Reaction.
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why not clib2?
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You must produce an OS4 binary using a cross-compiler available on the OS4 SDK (soon publically available). |
I have an A1, does that meed I cant use that.
-RWO _________________ Debugging is a state of mind
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Re: AmigaOS DevContest Kicks off! Posted on 14-Feb-2005 15:20:31
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| Why are no games allowed? An additional contest?
Alex. _________________ Weighty message. You should to read.
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Re: AmigaOS DevContest Kicks off! Posted on 14-Feb-2005 15:27:38
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| @alexw
Probably because there is a severe lack of certain types of application software on OS4 at the moment. This is a situation that this contest is attempting to address.
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Francis. _________________
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Re: AmigaOS DevContest Kicks off! Posted on 14-Feb-2005 15:28:11
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Use OS4-specific features (hooks, reaction classes, vitualised memory...etc). It means you must use Reaction. Quote:
ahhh I refuse to use Reaction.
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Yes, as I've already mentioned to Philippe, allowing only ReAction to be used as your main GUI may put a lot of people off. It's simply not good enough IMO. But, we'll see what happens... 
I hope I'm proved wrong, but wasn't WookieChat re-written using MUI for this very reason?
Anyway, I don't want a debate about MUI/ReAction... I hope this project produces a lot of good applications for OS4. _________________ This fire is burnin' and it's out of control It's not a problem you can stop, It's rock n' roll - GN'F'N'R
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Re: AmigaOS DevContest Kicks off! Posted on 14-Feb-2005 15:31:40
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| I agree that the MUI/Reaction things isn't optimal. It would be understandable if there wasn't an OS 4 native version of MUI but since it does exist and is actively maintained I don't see a reason to forbid the usage of MUI. _________________ "Who do you think is this guy - god ?" "No, god knows mercy !"
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Re: AmigaOS DevContest Kicks off! Posted on 14-Feb-2005 15:42:01
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| I guess we'll just have to stop our game project then and make a utility instead  |
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Re: AmigaOS DevContest Kicks off! Posted on 14-Feb-2005 15:49:21
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only ReAction to be used as your main GUI may put a lot of people off. It's simply not good enough IMO |
Then why not create new Reaction classes? Ok, who here can beat MUI???
I think it's usefull to add a "Why Reaction?" entry in the FAQ: MUI is nice but it belongs to a third party coder and an operating system can't rely on it. It means that if for a reason or another one day AmigaOS owners won't be able to use MUI anymore, they will be stuck. This is why they had to use a proprietary solution: Reaction. As an example, now that M$ based "everything" on DirectX, what would happen if an hypotetical owner of DirectX would decide to stop its partnership with M$? They would either go bankrupt or will have to spend a lot of $$ to replace DirectX.
Now if MUI became free (i.e. not GPL) for use anywhere, I would be happy to remove this restriction from the contest.Last edited by elwood on 14-Feb-2005 at 04:09 PM.
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Re: AmigaOS DevContest Kicks off! Posted on 14-Feb-2005 16:05:33
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Just a pity I cant code otherwise Id enter so I could finally get my hands on a new amiga, this BPPC is really getting long in the tooth.. _________________ Regards Darren 'Ryu' Glenn ---------------------------- www.IntuitionBase.com - Your Guide to Amiga OS4.x and the AmigaOne www.Bambi-Amiga.co.uk - My A1200 webserver, running 24/7/365
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Re: AmigaOS DevContest Kicks off! Posted on 14-Feb-2005 16:06:38
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| elwood:bee thinking about the same as you it seems, best of luck with this and lets see if something interesting pops up.
Btw, 10 months is far away , lets hope it wont be 10 months with no sw at all (everyone has a contrib for the competetion...)
cheers _________________ See my blog and collection website! . https://www.blog.amigaguru.com
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Re: AmigaOS DevContest Kicks off! Posted on 14-Feb-2005 16:21:49
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| If I have to buy an AmigaOne OS 4.0 to develop a software for AmigaOne to get an AmigaOne as a prize wouldn't it make sense to just buy an AmigaOne OS 4.0 and not bother enter the contest but develop a software for yourself? I mean unless hyperion releases SDK 4.0 to be used in GCC under WinUAE for example, to develop softwares for AmigaOne OS 4.0- or SDK 4.0 for Windows to develop Softwares for AmigaOne, I think there is no way anyway can enter the contest. If I am to save enough money to buy me an AmigaOne to enter the contest, then I would not bother enter the contest at all. Last edited by Foody on 14-Feb-2005 at 04:22 PM.
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Re: AmigaOS DevContest Kicks off! Posted on 14-Feb-2005 16:25:54
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| @Toaks
Good spot. Then I added: You can't submit a project that is already running and used by OS4 users. But you don't have to wait for the deadline to release beta versions of your project. Since it has been accepted in the contest, you can release demos, screenshots or whatever. Doing so you can attract new developers, betatesters.
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Exactly. This will happen so you can start coding right away and when the SDK is available port your project to OS4.
Thanks.Last edited by elwood on 14-Feb-2005 at 04:27 PM.
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