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Software News   Software News : MPlayer Dirty Preview #5.
   posted by afxgroup on 17-Aug-2005 19:55:48 (5583 reads)
On my site and on os4depot it is possible to download a new version of MPlayer.

This version is compiled with new SDK and NewLib.
Look at os4depot "read me" for all news.
Please report all bugs to me as usual

Thank You.
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Re: MPlayer Dirty Preview #5.
Posted on 18-Aug-2005 1:31:53
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@Toaks

Are you running DVPlayer through the shell where it reports number of frames
skipped?

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number6: DvPlayer aint missing/skipping frames for me.

mplayer on the other hand...


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Hi,
Is there a 68k port planned ?

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Re: MPlayer Dirty Preview #5.
Posted on 18-Aug-2005 9:58:27
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@all

DvPlayer MUST BE FASTER! It is born on amiga, Mplayer is portable. Mplayer supports a lot of formats and encrypted DVDs. I donated to afxgroup and also registered Dvpayer, and i think everybody should do the same in our small comunity.

Forceidx is a cool options for a player, but it slow down loading.


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Posted on 18-Aug-2005 12:15:05
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@number6

Quote:
Please post further comments on the "new" version of MPlayer to the thread
on the front page. There is a known problem with Xoops (used on this site) where it is not possible
to access any pages in "news" threads other than the first and last page.


I can't say I'd have noticed that, I had no problems reading for example all the pages that are in the DvPlayer news thread. Is this something that has to do with a certain browser, or perhaps a different version of Xoops (aw.net's version is heavily customised after all)?

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ajk:

it's because people run out of Chipmem (classic) or Video mem (A1) .

i suggest that people just cut down their customization in workbench since they obviously have overdone it and has no mem to read/view.


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@Toaks

Quote:"it's because people run out of Chipmem (classic) or Video mem(A1)."

http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=452&forum=7&start=140&147
Begin with post #134 and read the rest of the thread if interested.

Also:
http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=4260&forum=6
Relevant post by Olegil #6

News does NOT function the same way as the main section threads.

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number6:


i only use 1 browser... IBROWSE . i never use other things and i browse alot here on aw.

long news threads CHEW RTG memory (and aga if youre using classic) but forum threads do not.

i complained alot about the excessive use at this back in the days before i got a 32mb gfx card (or higher).


EDIT:
gonna check thoose threads when i have some "boredom" time (as theyre simply too long for now to sit down and read)

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@Toaks

Quote:...."(as theyre simple too long for now to sit down and read)"

Understood. It is a -lot- to read.
For those of us who can replicate the problem at will:
We will continue to try and track this down.
Repeating key note:This applies to "news" threads with -more- than 2 pages.
The problem refers specifically to pages -between- the first and last pages of
a "news" thread only. A three page "news" thread will show this effect on the
middle page, page two.


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@number6:

Quote:

There is a known problem with Xoops (used on this site) where it is not possible
to access any pages in "news" threads other than the first and last page.


It is possibe: for 2-nd page apeend the following string to the URL of the first page:
"&start=20"
for 3rd page it'll be "&start=40" and so on

Jack

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I have to admit I couldn't be bothered to read those threads very carefully so if this is something that only pops up in very specific circumstances, I can accept there may be some problem. However just now trying to read any "middle" page in a news thread works perfectly fine, this is with a registered IBrowse 2.3. Also works perfectly with Firefox on the linux side, so I don't really see this being a Xoops issue.

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I have the same problem with IB registered. I have no problem reading a news item IF I'm not logged in. The problem only shows when I'm logged in as a member. I just tried AWebPPC & the same thing happens with that browser.


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@Sundown

Even crazier is when you choose "Newest First" and all the posts get numbered
backwards. Crazier still in "threaded view" where all the posts get the "same"
number. Ya' gotta love it.


@thread

In my previous post here I have linked directly to the thread with the testing prodedure.
If it is not readily understandable, please ask.

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Posted on 18-Aug-2005 19:58:24
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The MPlayer test:
Quote:
9.Workbench:> c:mplayer Fun:VTS_02_3.VOB
MPlayer - 1.0pre7.005 (04-08-2005) NewLib - PThreads (C) 2000-2005 MPlayer Team
AltiVec found
CPU: PowerPC

0 c:mplayer
1 Fun:VTS_02_3.VOB
86 audio & 201 video codecs
Playing Fun:VTS_02_3.VOB.
MPEG-PS file format detected.
VIDEO: MPEG2 720x576 (aspect 2) 25.000 fps 7000.0 kbps (875.0 kbyte/s)
==========================================================================
Opening audio decoder: [dvdpcm] Uncompressed DVD/VOB LPCM audio decoder
AUDIO: 48000 Hz, 2 ch, s16be, 1536.0 kbit/100.00% (ratio: 192000->192000)
Selected audio codec: [dvdpcm] afm:dvdpcm (Uncompressed DVD/VOB LPCM)
==========================================================================
VO: [cgx_vmem] Ciao !
Border: 3
==========================================================================
Opening video decoder: [mpegpes] MPEG 1/2 Video passthrough
VDec: vo config request - 720 x 576 (preferred csp: Mpeg PES)
Could not find matching colorspace - retrying with -vf scale...
Opening video filter: [scale]
The selected video_out device is incompatible with this codec.
Also try adding the scale filter, e.g. -vf spp,scale instead of -vf spp.
VDecoder init failed :(
Opening video decoder: [libmpeg2] MPEG 1/2 Video decoder libmpeg2-v0.4.0b
Selected video codec: [mpeg12] vfm:libmpeg2 (MPEG-1 or 2 (libmpeg2))
==========================================================================
Building audio filter chain for 48000Hz/2ch/s16be -> 0Hz/0ch/s8...
AF_FORMAT_S16_BE
AHI: Using 0x1e0002 AudioID.
AHI: Using 10584 bytes per chunk and 330 Kb for buffer
AO: [ahi] 48000Hz 2ch s16be (2 bps)
Building audio filter chain for 48000Hz/2ch/s16be -> 48000Hz/2ch/s16be...
Starting playback...
VDec: vo config request - 720 x 576 (preferred csp: Planar YV12)
VDec: using Planar YV12 as output csp (no 0)
Movie-Aspect is 1.33:1 - prescaling to correct movie aspect.
VO: [cgx_vmem] 720x576 => 768x576 Planar YV12
ARGB32
No accelerated colorspace conversion found
VO_CGX: Start
Cleanup !
The end

Exiting... (Quit)
9.Workbench:>


The DVPlayer Test:
Quote:
9.Workbench:> Utilities/MultiMedia/DvPlayer/DvPlayer Fun:VTS_02_3.VOB verbose
Fun:VTS_02_3.VOB
Video: MPEG, 720 x 576, 25.00 fps
Audio: 16-bit 48000 Hz, Stereo
Total Nr of Frames: 1051
Nr of Frames played: 1051
Nr of Frames skipped: 0
Total Playback Time: 42.013 seconds
Average Framerate: 25.016 fps
Displayed Framerate: 25.016 fps
9.Workbench:>


In this test, MPlayer takes the CPU usage up to the usual 100% mark while DVPlayer is ugins approx 90%-95%.

I don't think this is importanty since both tests are being done on the same computer but still: A1-XE G4 @ 800Mhz, 512Mb Ram, Radeon 7500, Soundblaster Live.

In these 2 tests you can see I've added no extra commands (The only exception is 'verbose' so that DVPlayer outputs some info. MPlayer plays the video at fill speed, no frame dropping or audio dropping out of sync. DVPlayer does the slow mo sound things mentioned before.

FuZion.

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fuzion:

thanks for the long mail , is that file available for free on the net or?

i'd like to test it here + and see why you get theese weird probs.

(as its the other way around here)


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Nah, the file is direct from a Maxim Magazine issue I got (Footballs greatest ever goals).

It's file size is: 816,392,192 so it'd take a while to put somewhere to download

I'll have it on my hard drive for BB3 if anyone else out there wants to see this happeninig. Me & the MAG crew will be in full force (Hopefully )

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@Toaks

Quote:

DvPlayer aint missing/skipping frames for me.
mplayer on the other hand...


Well on my G3 750GX 800MHz the demo version skips on DVD's.
Sound though is playing alright.
MPlayer on the other hand is nowhere near to playing at full
DVD speed. DvPlayer is very near at playing full speed.
This tested with Kingpin DVD (a commercial movie without CSS coding).

Also when playing DivX/Xvid DvPlayer is VERY smooth but MPlayer
gives a small stutter about every second.

So I'd say DvPlayer is atleast 20-30% faster.

DvPlayer Demo v0.44, first version of avcodec.library with
AC3 and latest MPlayer where used to test with.

Last edited by Samwel on 19-Aug-2005 at 02:36 AM.
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Quote:

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Great,Great...but where is 68k version? :) or better wos :)


MPlayer is too ineffective (slow, unoptimized) to be able to run on a Classic Amiga - 68k or PPC

AMP2, Frogger, and possibly DvPlayer too, contains hand optimized assembler IIRC while MPlayer is constructed to be portable (written in C) and therefore cannot be optimized for one architecture the same way (I think!?).


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