Yes you can use Warpd3D in Winuae, its old news:

http://quarktex.kontechs.de/

Awesome!!!!
I can't wait to try Os4.0 on my 2 classic PPC systems!!!!!

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@kriz

QuarkTex is not Warp3D.

QuarkTex is library or program that acts like Warp3D, all programs that tries access warp3d api ends up in QuarkTex routines, QuarkTex then emulates the Warp3D behaviour on top of OpenGL.

It not unlike what I’m doing whit Svgalib, whit little difference that I’m using most of the original source code.

What I’m doing is remove lowlevel hardware banging routines and replace this routines talk whit OS libraries, in some case it’s 1 to 1 mapping of function name x (svgalib) to function name y (picasso96/Graphics library), and some cases it requires some tricks, in some cases I don’t need change any thing because some routines just depends on the low lever routines, so need to change any thing.

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Nice to see this one been released too.

'course I already got my earlybird lying around and wont buy anything more before the lawsuit is resolved (and in a manner i can agree with).

@Condor: I would like to hear from you when you run it :)

Sorry Rogue for quoting the obvious i sold 2 ppc cards and my a1200,s a while ago as i was mainly using a dreaded pc, i also sold my amigaone g4 xe as i needed money and had not used it much so i decided it was better someone that would use it have it .Now you have the ppc version for the classic and the only amiga have is an a500.I hope someone releases new hardware soon would love to see the complete os4 running and have a new machine .

*** First batch of stock has now arrived today and has been completely sold out: next batch of stock due shortly *** (AmigaKit)




Although, my order is still at "awaiting stock" status. Oooh, the anticipation

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I've written a news post for Ars Technica that includes this news, so that should increase interest:

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20071204-under-the-shadow-of-lawsuits-amiga-development-goes-on.html

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QuarkTex is not Warp3D.

That's rather irrelevant. Warp3D directly accesses the graphics chip. It should be clear that this does not work when running in a hosted environment since Windows is controlling the graphics hardware, and Warp3D messing with it would disrupt operation of Windows itself.

So no matter how you look at it, the original poster claiming that we "prevent" Warp3D from running on UAE was talking nonsense. QuarkTex fills the gap since Warp3D can not run on UAE for technical reasons.

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What if Stéphane Guillard Warp3D software render driver was made for 68k ?
Would that work in WinUAE?

Is that why its only PPC ?

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From the homepage
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What it doesn't do : 68K version (distribution not allowed by Hyperion because of Amithlon Warp3D licensing issues)

Then i guess so.

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Great article Jeremy.

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Yes, very nice article. Puts the current situation in a nutshell, describes things concisely so that casual observers can keep tabs on how things are progressing, and doesn't take sides. Awesome reporting, Jeremy.

Yes it's a nice article. Unfortunately the discussion thread has the obligatory "just let it die" comments.

Hans

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A super great article Jeremy.
It still shows the AmigaOS is still alive and without
the help of AInc.

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People were telling me that when I was running a A500 and they had MSDOS 286 machines!

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>So no matter how you look at it, the original poster claiming that we "prevent" >Warp3D from running on UAE was talking nonsense. QuarkTex fills the gap since >Warp3D can not run on UAE for technical reasons.

http://s.guillard.free.fr/swrender/swrender.htm

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What it doesn't do :

68K version (distribution not allowed by Hyperion because of Amithlon Warp3D licensing issues)
Source code (the Warp3D driver SDK is closed and property of Hyperion)

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and btw, MOS developer tell that OS4 contain anti OS4 emu code.
Who can be sure if a OS4 running on uae get some day anti UAE code, or a lib do that

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>Yeah, right... disregarding the inline assembler, the totally different architecture, it >should be nothing but flipping a switch, eh?

OS4 run on 68k in the past.Should i really post links that show this ?

>Or, for the matter, the absence of an MMU in some 68k models.

i dont know if a OS need a MMU as important.Linux too can work without MMU as far i know

look at mmulibrary, this lib can too memoryprotect and reserve private mem.

But i am sure, UAE can easy change to use the Host OS memory protect features to alloc mem.look at tlsf mem, this is a new memsystem, and size is only 2,5 kb.

So a new mem system seem no 7. th world wonder.

later i want too mem protect in AFA or AROS , i introduce a safer system switch, that do partly resourcetracking and structure check.

but first priority is for me have a nice looking OS and that is not so easy because i have no AOS source and window/intuition structure of AOS is not ducument complete, so it is more work to replace window functions with AROS code

>Although I don't exactly get what you want to say, I can assure you that AmigaOS >4.0 is more stable than any previous version of AmigaOS.

nice but that doesnt help when the CPU emu have bugs , or emulation it must be clear, if a Bug come by CPU emu or by OS or Apps.

for example in the first time i develop on UAE i often test programs if they work on UAE and CPU EMU and JIT work well.Or get reports from users that program xy not work on uae.
If they do not work really on my uae OS install, i have identical install on my classic amiga and test if work here.

And only if a soft work on my classic but not on uae i begin to search for a Bug in uae.

so if somebody that does not know much about OS4 and own a good working OS4 machine, i think its a impossible mission to get a OS4 Hardware emulator stable working with OS4.

@Bernd

Read again, it says "UAE" not Amithlon.

There was a time when we actually charged people for Warp3D support, and Amithlon (I think it was my special friend Harald Frank at that time) didn't want to. So we prohibited the software driver on Amithlon.

There is, as I said, only technical reasons that prevent Warp3D from running on Amithlon and WinUAE. For Amithlon, I would have had to invest extra work, which I wasn't ready to do for free, especially considering what happened between Harald and me before (which was very personal).

Again, you are free to try and install Warp3D on WinUAE or Amithlon. If it works, be happy. If it doesn't, well, not my problem.

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> OS4 run on 68k in the past.

Which was loooong time ago, which had far lesser features than today etc.
...and which (for the above reasons) you would not like to run, if you can have the PPC-version.

Actually it was only for betatesting the first PPC-modules and the actual contract does not give Hyperion a licence so even release that old 68k-version for UAE or Amithlon.

So... what's the point of your whole null-argumentation-chain ?

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Which was loooong time ago, which had far lesser features than today etc.
...and which (for the above reasons) you would not like to run, if you can have the PPC-version.

Actually it was only for betatesting the first PPC-modules and the actual contract does not give Hyperion a licence so even release that old 68k-version for UAE or Amithlon.

So... what's the point of your whole null-argumentation-chain ?

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