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Software News   Software News : AROS self compiles!
   posted by deadwood on 18-Nov-2008 17:07:35 (3458 reads)
Today marks an important day for AROS as Stanislaw Szymczyk completes his work on AROS self-compilation, fulfilling an important requirement of AROS 1.0 Roadmap.

Stanislaw's work, started in April, brought many important but missing development tools to AROS, the most notable beeing native GCC/G++ packages for i386, PPC, x86_64 and native Perl and Python packages for i386 and x86_64. The ported software and changes Stanislaw implemented made AROS a developer friendly system. We also hope that way the tools are integrated with standard distribution (fully working even from LiveCD !) will appeal to people wanting to develop for AROS and on AROS.

Kitty is waiting for your commits!

For instructions concerning self-compilation, please see this documentation:
http://aros.sourceforge.net/documentation/developers/compiling.php#building-aros-on-aros
    

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Re: AROS self compiles!
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Finally. This is an important milestone for AROS. This will make it easier for people who want to develop for AROS. Congratulations Stanislaw on getting this done.

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How would you describe the importance of "self-compilation" feature to common people? Any analogy or metaphor? Thanks.


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@ Hans

Only time will tell!


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How would you describe the importance of "self-compilation" feature to common people? Any analogy or metaphor? Thanks.


Before AROS developers would have to boot Linux (or Windows) and run a cross-compiler on that system in order to compile parts of AROS (and apps too?). Then they would have to copy the compiled binary over and start up AROS.

Now they only need AROS, they don't need a second operating system in order to develop AROS stuff.

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we should have a parade for Stanislaw


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@AmiKit

It´s kinda like the chiken and the egg situation.

Previously AROS OS Developers had a Turkey, which they gene manipulated into giving a live chicken.

Now they have both the chiken and eggs... Or something.

AROS can now make more AROS, before it was other OS which made AROS.

In theory all other OS´ can now go away... :) Although not likely


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How would you describe the importance of "self-compilation" feature to common people? Any analogy or metaphor? Thanks.

I would be less hassle for developers to develop/port software that runs on Aros. This will benefit all users since it will most likely lead to more people developing Aros apps.

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Congratulations to all the developers that have worked so hard to make AROS what it is today

In my view AROS has just made that big from being a self booting application to being a real OS as you can now develop new versions of the OS without requiring to use ether a second computer to s second separate OS on the same hardware.

When my SAM440 arrives I will give AROS a try on it, I know that I can try it now on x86,
but I personally have no interest in running an AmigaOS natively on my desktop.


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Now they only need AROS, they don't need a second operating system in order to develop AROS stuff.


Does that mean the AROS community is like the Linux community and is mostly programmers? Since in this case all the common people are programmers.

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I personally have no interest in running an AmigaOS natively on my desktop.


So what will you run on your Sam then? Linux?

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My metaphor is ost suitable for a Greek audience.

Cross-compiling = You live with your parents and build/repair your house where you will move in the future.
Self-Compiling = You live in your house while you are building/repairing it. Of course you need the bare minimum to live in.

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So what will you run on your Sam then? Linux?


Yes and OS4.1 but if I installed AROS on my desktop x86 box I would have a Windows box to rdesktop to and run real software on and there for no use for any other OS


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