From freescale page:

http://www.freescale.com/webapp/sps/site/prod_summary.jsp?code=MC68060&nodeId=018rH3YTLC4622&tab=Buy_Parametric_Tab&fromSearch=false



MC68060RC50 $373.29
MC68060RC60 $524.99

As GVP 060 card cost $445 this meant that the card (I mean without the 060) itself cost 71,71 NOW DON´T SOUND SO EXPENSIVE

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Suport from hyperion is first thing, then the rest, but think that is just a single volume run to shut the holes of time ....

But there is no new on site of gvp about posible future projects...

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maybe the cards aren't new..

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More likely the CPU's aren't new.

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Amiga's have always been expensive, this is nothing new. Small captive market. Small and therefore expensive production runs. Dealers have to eat, too.

The PPC hardware is expensive, too.

I'm not saying it's right or wrong. You are a consumer. Vote with your wallet.

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I guess the real question on value is:

1) how much do the needed components cost? - I.E. are they cheap and plentiful because they are old or expensive and scarce because they are old tech?

2) Is the perfomance boost gained in each case still worth the money if you really want to run on classic hardware?

3) How much does it cost to get items like this built in small production runs?

I'm going to take a guess that its not likely cheap to produce this stuff now. Either way I applaud the effort. Even if there is sticker shock, can any of us honestly say that they are overcharging based on what it probably costs them to do this at all?

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Poster: afxgroup Date: 28-Apr-2009 2:50:42 500$ for a 060 is LOW PRICE???? Are you crazy? And you consider SAM overpriced?? That are fool.. and users are more fool than sellers..

I'd have to agree here. Those prices for THAT hardware is beyond STUPIDLY CRAZY
ever seen the performance of A 060 compared to a $400 PC??

Anyone thinking about this should try WinUAE for a comparison??

Does this GVP company understand how OLD this technology is now and what they are trying to flog this stuff for?

This is the reason I stay away from eBay.
People bidding $280 on an 060 on eBay is totaly nuts in my opinion.

Look, I'll say if you are going to spend this kind of money on such OLD H/W, Call me. I got TONS of it I'd love to sell you and I'll charge less than GVP for the same aged stuff.
Mine is 2nd hand.

Feel free.

Last edited by SHADES on 27-Apr-2009 at 11:50 PM.

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Again its good to see people doing business in the classic market.

There are those who polish down old 3 wheeler bikes and pay good money for painting's, I mean come on how useful is an old painting compared to actually making a painting on good old D-Paint! LOL

I paid good money for an OLD Amiga 4000/040 2 years ago. First time I booted, I couldn't believe how fast it was. WOW

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I'd have to agree here. Those prices for THAT hardware is beyond STUPIDLY CRAZY ever seen the performance of A 060 compared to a $400 PC??

I feel that way about new OS4 PPC hardware, too, but I'll be buying something anyway. *shrug*

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@ Shades

I think this is the difference between those ppl who see Amiga priary as retro/vintage computing and those ppl who actually try to keep the Amiga in their current computing life.
These are brand new items for collectors maschines. It doesn't need to be cheap or up to date, but offer the most for your computer oldtimer.

Us other folks using morphOS, OS4 or AROS don't belong to that group. We want a current Amiga. An Amiga who has more power than those maschines from the early 90ies. But we have the problem that our favorites (be it Sam, Efika, Pegasos or even teh Mac Mini) somehow compete against current el cheapo x86. And they connot win this competition. We are kind of doomed, or at least need a reason to justify.
The vintage/retro Amiga fans don't have taht problem. they can easily justify to spend the money. It is a hobby, it is retro, it is collecting it is abou to archive a piece of computer history.
For them teh offer is great.
Lucky folks within Amigaland enjoy the fun of retro Amiga life *and* AmigaNG(MorphOS, OS4 and AROS) life. But these folks are rare - they need lots of time, storage room and money.

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This is great news because once your machine finally blows up and you can't get another one there will be all these newer boards released at lower prices so I can then buy them second hand...

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What you say makes quite a bit of sense. The thing is though I think trying to be on a par with IBM isn't really something we need to be to survive and actually become a real alternative.

We do however need to keep supporting the movement. I just recently paid for my 2nd SAM, a flex MB. Its not as cheap as another generic MB but then, it's no more expensive than what an A500 used to cost when that first came out...

I will buy the next hardware version too... As long as there are people out there that do use there Amiga as THE cpu in there lives there is a chance... hopefully as time goes on more people will realise, what we lose in price we gain in pleasure of use etc... eventually the price difference will end up suitably comparable... In a matter of speaking, please, no damn knuckleheads arguing the point on that one...

Like I've said in other posts, what exactly does everyone spend there money on? I really don't get it... life is good and money is easy to get... LOL

Perhaps I just don't have any stupid vices the rest of the world seems to be inflicted with... gambling, drinking, KIDS? LOL

And then there is drugs... no point trying to evaluate that one... adios!

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GVP are still around?!?

The first thing to enter my mind when I saw this was, "this announcement is either 23 days or 23 years late"...

I think it's great that there is new hardware available for classic Amigas. I remember reading that these boards will have a warranty, which, in some cases, makes them more attractive than an ebay purchase (depending on what accelerator of course).

I'd like to get a Spectrum board for my Bodega Bay'd Amiga 500.

No new Commodore 64 around? i will pay also 1000$ for a new machine! maybe at 2MHZ like the 128! or better 3MHZ! without the fast/slow command!

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Since the price of a 68060 is damn high would it be an idea to make softcore 060/040 in FPGA like the natami project is doing with their 68050 softcore ?
This way we could get much higher clock speeds, get rid of old hardware like SIMM's etc and you could put on 1 pci slot for a gfx card maybe and get prices lower for a 'fast' accellerator card on a classic miggy.

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Poster: Comi Date: 27-Apr-2009 15:45:36

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PPC hardwre please, this classics cards are good and refreshing but not move ahead in present time.

PPC a move ahead? Maybe 10 years ago, but in a modern desktop world, PPC is as dead as the 68K.

I'm very happy to see any 68K hardware being actually (vs paper launch) produced again, at any pricing in the three digit figure. Excellent news from GVP!

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@All:
I consider these new cards like new parts for your veteran cars. Some collectors, fans of *OLD* cars will buy them anyway, no matter how high priced they are, and they're still happy about it. You don't love these old cars, and old computers because of their performance, but the feeling they give, which is simply unmatchable.

Therefore, comparing them to SAM's price or a $400 USD PC is just plain stupid, because they've *NOTHING* do to with any OS4 or other PPC hardware, or even PC/x86 hardware prices. For example, i've spent $250+ on *Commodore 64* expansion and parts, in the past 6 months. Do you think, i did so, because of the performance? Geez...

Hell, i've *THREE* next gen PPC Amiga systems, and even classic + PPC, and i'd still buy these cards (at least a 4060 specifically) if i had the money. So, what's wrong with you guys? (Beside of course, that some OS4 people trying to push people to buy SAMs instead. Which is plain idiotic and stupid. It's not for the same market, not targeted at the same people, IMO.)

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so nothing in this world is overpriced because when i have spent 1000 Euro for A1 i did it because it was a new amiga (and also you with peg/mos/efika and so on..)
So we are crazy. nothing else
Even if someone buy a Mac is crazy since he could have a more cheaper PC (also at 1/3 of its price) without problem..

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