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Announcement   Announcement : BlitterWolf Development New Website
   posted by Gebrochen on 14-Jun-2009 15:30:10 (3742 reads)
Dear amigans,

http://web.aanet.com.au/~BlitterWolf/index.html

By going to the link above, you will now see a new and reloaded website.

Naturally, I must say that anyone using Internet explorer, well, they arent thinking clearly.

Read more...


Site can be viewed from many other browsers successfully. Such as Firefox, Chrome, safari, Iceweasel, and Orign web browser to name a few.

Anyone using IBrowse, sorry, no go. If you are however using OS4.x, then you have no problems, just use OWB, logical. Maybe even netsurf.

cheers.
    

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Re: BlitterWolf Development New Website
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I must say that anyone using Internet explorer

w3.org HTML validator gives 17 errors on the main page. Is this MSIE bashing just a lame excuse for ignoring web standards?


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looks great :)


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Looks really nice. I'll visit regularly


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@Krashan

Well it says on the site: "Site viewed best with Firefox for windows users, or another downloadable web browser. we dont listen to complaints over Internet Explorer Users."

So, the answer must be yes !!!

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@ Krashan

No I am not bashing anything, but the joint work gone into the site, from daniel and myself has brought a valid web site for most broswers. So If MSIE can not view transparencies done in a design program, whereas Safari can, and Linux native browsers can, that tells me MSIE is not good to use to begin with.

Maybe MSIE on XP is outdated like IBrowse, but that is not anyones fault.

Most users we are dealing with, dont include the Windows OS system anyway, if youve noticed, we are aiming to develop for all paltforms but windows.

Windows does not need any further assistance to grow, but the other niche markets do.

Another note, anyone using IE and not a downloaded browser on a windows system, may not be an Amiga Enthusiast to begin with, rather a small time hobbyist, reminising the old days with their emulator.

Nothing wrong with emulation though, perhaps try netsurf or OWB on your emulator if you dont have an Amiga / Mac / Linux / Morph / AROS system.

Just a thought.

But thank you for viewing the site.

@ All

Tonight I will try to find time to fix some text error on the site.

CHeers.


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The site appears to work fine on IE. At least version7 upwards, and really, for people who use IE who doesnt uses those ? Why would people use Netsurf and/or OWB under emulation anyway ? Firstly, you cant (apart from owb on 68k, but that's more or a proof of concept than a "real" port), but secondly there's plenty of other options for Windows people, including Windows versions of OWB and Netsurf. You do however realise that those same people you disregard are most likely Amiga people though? Those who are at work, studies, etc. Or those who also have a Windows machine that they have to use for on reason or another (unfortunately there's plenty plenty of things that cant be done on "amiga" systems), and as you said Windows already has Starcraft anyway (and stargus plus many other engines that will play starcraft).
Dont like Windows , that's fine, there's a lot of people who dont, and each to thier own, but those comments you put seem like mindless bashing to me. How about you just disregard the platforms you dont like rather than spending the time and effort to bash it ?

Just out of curiousity, what happened to the OS4.x version of Stargus that people where using 12+ months ago? Stargus was ported a long time ago, but I cant seem to find where that compile has gone.

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@ Fishy_Fis

Edited the whole thing :

Just realised, you always trying to start trouble with fellow amigans.

I'll just say this, spent many days researching before considering the port.

AND

If there already was / is an OS4 version for that long, I dont think many amigans would be eagerly awaiting our PORT now would they?

As for IE, I know windows users(mates of mine) that love using windows, but find IE crap, so effectively you are who you hang out with in a way I suppose.

I dont see a problem with what I said previously, if you do, thats fine, you dont have to read any of our Future posts if your not interested in future development on our desired niche platforms.

Question, may I ask, what amiga system you own, maybe you could opt for testing our next beta release instead of whining and complaining over my prefered OS'es.

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Damn it! It doesn't have any text in IBrowse. Do you support the browsers included with OS4? How many are there

Very dispapointed. Not working in a real Amiga browser. I hope this is fixed. IBrowse is the last of the web browsers made on Amiga

This is quite unaacceptable as the site works in AWeb. The Amigas most popular browser. (Never knew why, I always found it to be crappy. ) The graphics are a bit broken but otherwise fine.

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Naturally, I must say that anyone using Internet explorer, well, they arent thinking clearly.


Why not? I checked it in Interner Explorer and it looked okay. Funny thing though, the graphics was broken in the same place IBrowse had it broken! Near the Paypal gadget.

Perhaps IBrowse is more modern than we thought if it renders a page like IE.

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@Krashan:
If you were able to read and understand the output of the W3C Validator, then you would realize that it's not 17 errors, but some ~5 errors that are appearing multiple times and some warnings about compatibility that has been integrated to keep at least some compatibility with HTML 3.2.

Even if those "errors" get fixed I would guess that IE is still a bad choice and that it would fail to display the site correctly.


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@_PAB_

And if you were able to understand what a standard is, you would still say it's broken.

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@Hypex

modern Amigas for the future and OS4.x users will be able to display the site fine,and this is the market we are supposed to be catering for anyway.

I am trying to look forward, so should you my friend.

If we want new users onto the platform, many have used really nice browsers, if they then need to use IBrowse, they will find it extremely outdated, and a pain in their rear end to use, compared to what they are / were used too.

I can accept going forward, question is, are you willing too also? Or do you want to stay in the dark ages?

Origyn web browser yes,and Aweb seems to disaply the site. I recommend OWB.

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@Gebrochen

Quote:

Another note, anyone using IE and not a downloaded browser on a windows system, may not be an Amiga Enthusiast to begin with, rather a small time hobbyist, reminising the old days with their emulator.


In the real world Amiga users have got a job and are surfing from the work. It is not always possible use some other browser or some other operating system.

Anyway the content looked ok with IE.


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@Genbrochen

In what way did I make any sort of complaint in rgards to your preferred OS? I didnt mention anything to do with your choice os OSes. Not Once. All I said was that if you dislike a platform then why spend the effort and energy to insult it at any given chance. Isnt it easier just to disregard it ? There was no whining over your preferred OSes, you can use whatever you like, why would I care ? Im an Amiga guy, I'd prefer people use amiga based systems to get the user base numbers up anyway. Why would I spend hours every day developing for the platform if I had an issue with it ? In regards to Stargus, yes there has been an OS4.x version for quite some time, although it seems the person who recompiled it didnt think it was warranted uploading anywhere (as often was the case with Frak when he's not perfectly happy with software). As for beta testing for you,... why the hell would I help you after you repeatedly have issues with things I dont even say ? (this isnt the 1st time youve replied to things Ive said that I infact didnt even say)

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@Fishy_Fis

That is fine friend.

That may explain why a lot of users are eager for the port we are doing, as this Frak person never uploaded a version for the Amiga OS4.x user base.

Why he did not, is totally up to him, but surely he must have known all amigans are happy for an added game port to their miggy's, regardless if it has a couple of glitches in game?

It is not about me or you, but the Amiga user base.


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@ ITix

Sometimes my passion of Hate over something gets the better of me.

You are right, even I need to use a particular browser at work, but the website is viewable in that browser with no errors.

BUT, it is missing the transparencies, if anyone cares to view it in one of the suggested browsers in their spare time, they will see the difference in overall look of the website in comparison to IE.

But, I dont mind, for now, it is a welcomed upgrade over the previous site im sure.


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@Gebrochen_Cornhole

You certainly must be! That P-rhyming wolf you have is no way as good as the Blitter-Wolf on site.

Now Mr. Gebrochen Nemesis. You claim he cannot code anything, not even a web page, yet the evidence proves you wrong since if you look at the actual iframes you see will his hand coded work.

You sarcastically claim he is gay, yet again, the evidience given by you yourself in fact proves you to be gay. You certainly act happy.

But what are you really?


Now I'm sure you know by creating a spoof account and ripping off a picture, as funny as it might seem, all you are doing is insulting Gebrochen, myself since I am his associate, another OS4 web developer I wont name here and the gay communuty all in one!! Great help man. I won't expect to see many more comments from you nor tails of what you are sticking in your Cornhole!

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@fishy_fis

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Just out of curiousity, what happened to the OS4.x version of Stargus that people where using 12+ months ago? Stargus was ported a long time ago, but I cant seem to find where that compile has gone.


What!? I don't remember porting this 12 month s ago. I want to know where it has gone as well.

Quote:
In regards to Stargus, yes there has been an OS4.x version for quite some time, although it seems the person who recompiled it didnt think it was warranted uploading anywhere (as often was the case with Frak when he's not perfectly happy with software).


You mean to tell me I've wasted the last three months of my life porting a program that has already been ported?!
Arrgh!!!!
I am going to be and am about to blow up into a !!!

Why wasn't I told? I searched the internet for this and things to help get over it. And now you tell me someone has already worked on it. I already on this and saw no trace of any Amiga version or Mac version.

Now, just to be clear after I'd had my fun posting smilies to express my supposed anger over this. Are you talking about :
a.) The complete Stargus package, including working installer and compatible Stratagus to run it?
b.) Simply a compatible Stratagus to run it requiring the user to pull the files from Stargus x86 install?
b.) Just Stratagus itself?

We've had Stratagus for years featuring Warcraft and BOS wars.

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If you were able to read and understand the output of the W3C Validator, then you would realize that it's not 17 errors, but some ~5 errors that are appearing multiple times


I hate to say but 5 errors appearing multiple times to total 17 *are* 17 errors. If my code has the same error twice it's 2 errors, not one.


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