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Hardware News   Hardware News : Introducing Sam460ex
   posted by m3x on 2-Apr-2010 19:35:41 (14635 reads)
Bassano del Grappa, Italy - 2 April 2010

ACube Systems is happy to announce the new Sam460ex board. This board will join the Sam family together with the Sam440ep-flex.
Based around the AMCC 460ex SoC, the board offers many modern features like: PCI express slots, SATA2 port, Giga Ethernet, DDR2 RAM.



This is the complete features list:

flex-ATX form factor (21.6 x 17 cm)
8 layers PCB
AMCC 460ex SoC – upto 1.066 Ghz
max 2 GB DDR2 Ram – 200-pin SODIMM up to 533 Mhz
Silicon Motion SM502 embedded MoC (audio/video) max 64Mb Gfx RAM
Audio 5.1 Realtek ALC655 codec
PCI-express 4x lanes slot (16x mechanical connector)
PCI-express 1x lane slot (* check notes below)
PCI slot, 32 bit, 66/33 Mhz, 3.3V
1x SATA2 port (* see notes below)
6x USB2 EHCI/OHCI ports
2x 10/100/1000 Ethernet ports
Lattice XP2 FPGA with 80 I/O pins expansion connector (optional)
UMTS/GSM module (optional requires add-on card)
512 MB NAND Flash (optional)
integrated SD card reader
RTC clock
Serial port, 8-wires
I2C and SPI/I2C buses
passive cooling
U-Boot 2009.08

Notes: the SATA2 port and the PCI-e 1x slot are mutually exclusive, only one of them can be used at a time.

Price: the exact price will be announced when the board is available to the user (due the varying USD / EURO exchange rate) it will be in the range of EUR 600 - 650. The board will NOT replace the Sam440ex-flex board.

More information on:

ACube Website
Sam4x0 website
    

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Fantastic News, and to think there were people doubting new HW just a few months ago...


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Party tiiimeeeeeee.

I will buy one, i don't think i can resist....

Thanks ACube


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Awesome... nice to see yet more hardware. No support for OS4 yet I suppose, but in the pipework?


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Yeah great news, at least there is all the info we need and a date for release - which I have a feeling they stick to.

I would repeat what someone said on MB though, not sure if you need a domain for every product you release, even if it is registered to stop morons doing so, I wouldn't have too many micro sites for this, most people would want a single point of reference for your product offerings.

Yay!


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@Jamie_S
Hint: They would not put the news on AmigaWorld if it wasn't Amiga related


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@DAX

Ahhh I didn't spot that


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Hi m3x!

Good news! But has stated in another post:

1 - 64 mb was really too low for wb use...we need at least 128, any chache to get 128mb for gfx instead of installing an external gfx card?

2 - the 1GHz cpu was rendering the brlender test scene in the same time of my G3@666, I hope that you all have considered to put in the board also the fastest 460 cpu that was aroun 1,2 GHz right? If it need active cooling no problem here...

I'm pretty shure that however the general feeling using that board was rather good(like a 900MHz G4 I think)!

And I'm pretty shure too that os4.x will work on it rather well and maybe already in some beta stage since 460 core was the same of 440 one :)

GOOD WORK!

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How do you connect up more than 1 SATA device with this?

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But only ONE SATA connector? THis means that ALL users in practice will have to install
a SATA card and not use the internal one.. So why put it there in the first place?


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Excellent news!!!


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Great news indeed, definitely interested!

Keep my finger crossed for a laptop around this.. Or at least I hope it'll fit into a micro-ATX case! Assuming OS4.x will be ported

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http://amiga.ikirsector.it/forum/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=13824
Some tech infos, in italian sorry.

Can boot from SD... bye bye optical drive 1 sata only but you can expand it via pci as user demand... modular! I need just one sata for my SSD drive.

SODimm 667Mhz works at 533Mhz without problems on it I have tons of them


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@Tuxedo
Quote:
1 - 64 mb was really too low for wb use...we need at least 128, any chache to get 128mb for gfx instead of installing an external gfx card? 2 - the 1GHz cpu was rendering the brlender test scene in the same time of my G3@666, I hope that you all have considered to put in the board also the fastest 460 cpu that was aroun 1,2 GHz right? If it need active cooling no problem here...

Well for the first point I would say that it depends on what you need to do, 64Mb would be enough for some, while other have the option o installing a nice PCI-E card on that X4 slot.
As for Blender, I would suggest those interested in 3D graphics to get an X1000.

Other Amiga software should run quite nicely as it already runs quite well on current Sam


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@DAX

Yes the concept is: modular.

Need a better gfx card? Plug a gfx card
Need more sata? Plug a 4 x sata card


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Good work!

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@ikir

It's nice news indeed but.. WHY have silicon motion chip onboard??? 99% of the users
will install a Radeon anyway.. This bandwidth could have been used for a SATA chip instead
IMO. Thus freeing up the expansion slots for other things..

I wonder if they've made this choice because they're planning to use the board for a laptop
case.

Sorry but no optical drive??? This is NOT a serious option for desktop usage. Maybe for
embedded use where machines are preinstalled and can easily be updated via SD.

Last edited by Samwel on 02-Apr-2010 at 09:43 PM.
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ACube rocks


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@DAX

Well...
On my current SetUp(A1Se/Radeon9250)
1 - I use a 1680x1050 screen res(really normal resolution nowadays...), and with many windows/screens opened and comopsiting turned on 64mb was really too low...and I dont think 1680x1050 res and compositing on was a topHW demanding specs...

I mentioned Blender only because was, atm, the only thing that I can compare...
For the cpu statement I think also to look on camera photos for example, not only to have 3d demanding apps...just to port one example on my littel viewer LoView a 10Mpx photo takes around 3secs to be displayed and that wasnt a nice time if you would see photos from your last trip that probably was around 500/1000...
Also using OWB(and probably TimberWolf was slower than OWB if no hw cairo will be released) was ratehr slow on my setup, so more speed was need also to do "simple" surfing...without considering flash videos...since we my get a working flash player rather soon how funny was if we have it but we cant use it?

Hope that now my statement regarding the cpu power was well understood...
I still consider that new board a good thing, but plz...introdcing a new board that was still(in 2010) slower than the faster A1(g4@around 1GHz) was rather weird to me....

So if a 1,2GHz(better with some sort of active cooling and overclock like on sam 733), will be releassed I think that can be a real entry level...only that...no toher things...
And no high user thoughts...


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@Samwell

that's exactly what i think....
The gfx board better to have a PCI one like on sam flex, the sata was a must to have at least 2 unit supported(hdd and burner)...

And also...if you will put more card on it te price will grow...


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@Samwell
At least on OSX i'm not using optical drives since a while. for my usage i don't need it on my Sam either. I used my SAM dvd drive just to install OS4.
I thinking putting a second HD/SSD on my MacBook Pro instead of superdrive and my work mate did this on his Mac Mini (2 HD).

Gfx chip is included for who doesn't need better gfx power. Gfxcard are cheap anyway if you need one for bigger desktop res or "gaming" (quote needed on amiga land).

My sam440ep with 64MB is enough now for example.


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