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Re: Introducing Sam460ex Posted on 2-Apr-2010 20:00:01
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| Fantastic News, and to think there were people doubting new HW just a few months ago... _________________ SamFlex Complete 800Mhz System + AmigaOS 4.1 Update 4 Amiga 2000 DKB 2MB ChipRam GVP G-Force040 Picasso 2 OS3.9 BB2 AmigaCD 32
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Re: Introducing Sam460ex Posted on 2-Apr-2010 20:02:21
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| Party tiiimeeeeeee.
I will buy one, i don't think i can resist....
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Re: Introducing Sam460ex Posted on 2-Apr-2010 20:06:06
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| Awesome... nice to see yet more hardware. No support for OS4 yet I suppose, but in the pipework? _________________ A600 OS3.1 ACA620 | '030 A1200 OS3.5 | µA1-C 750GX OS4.1 | SAM460 OS4.1 | '040 A3000 OS2.1 | Christian Aid |
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Re: Introducing Sam460ex Posted on 2-Apr-2010 20:07:51
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| Yeah great news, at least there is all the info we need and a date for release - which I have a feeling they stick to.
I would repeat what someone said on MB though, not sure if you need a domain for every product you release, even if it is registered to stop morons doing so, I wouldn't have too many micro sites for this, most people would want a single point of reference for your product offerings.
Yay! _________________ Amiga A1200, 3.1 ROMs, Blizzard 1230 MKIV 64MB & FPU, 4GB DoM SSD, Workbench 3.1
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Re: Introducing Sam460ex Posted on 2-Apr-2010 20:08:47
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| @Jamie_S Hint: They would not put the news on AmigaWorld if it wasn't Amiga related _________________ SamFlex Complete 800Mhz System + AmigaOS 4.1 Update 4 Amiga 2000 DKB 2MB ChipRam GVP G-Force040 Picasso 2 OS3.9 BB2 AmigaCD 32
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Re: Introducing Sam460ex Posted on 2-Apr-2010 20:12:14
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| @DAX
Ahhh I didn't spot that _________________ A600 OS3.1 ACA620 | '030 A1200 OS3.5 | µA1-C 750GX OS4.1 | SAM460 OS4.1 | '040 A3000 OS2.1 | Christian Aid |
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Re: Introducing Sam460ex Posted on 2-Apr-2010 20:12:59
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| Hi m3x!
Good news! But has stated in another post:
1 - 64 mb was really too low for wb use...we need at least 128, any chache to get 128mb for gfx instead of installing an external gfx card?
2 - the 1GHz cpu was rendering the brlender test scene in the same time of my G3@666, I hope that you all have considered to put in the board also the fastest 460 cpu that was aroun 1,2 GHz right? If it need active cooling no problem here...
I'm pretty shure that however the general feeling using that board was rather good(like a 900MHz G4 I think)!
And I'm pretty shure too that os4.x will work on it rather well and maybe already in some beta stage since 460 core was the same of 440 one :)
GOOD WORK! Last edited by Tuxedo on 02-Apr-2010 at 08:17 PM.
_________________ Simone"Tuxedo"Monsignori, Perugia, ITALY.
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Re: Introducing Sam460ex Posted on 2-Apr-2010 20:14:42
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| How do you connect up more than 1 SATA device with this? |
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Re: Introducing Sam460ex Posted on 2-Apr-2010 20:18:42
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| But only ONE SATA connector? THis means that ALL users in practice will have to install a SATA card and not use the internal one.. So why put it there in the first place? _________________ /Harry
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Re: Introducing Sam460ex Posted on 2-Apr-2010 20:19:08
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Re: Introducing Sam460ex Posted on 2-Apr-2010 20:22:57
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| Great news indeed, definitely interested!
Keep my finger crossed for a laptop around this.. Or at least I hope it'll fit into a micro-ATX case! Assuming OS4.x will be ported |
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Re: Introducing Sam460ex Posted on 2-Apr-2010 20:31:58
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| http://amiga.ikirsector.it/forum/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=13824 Some tech infos, in italian sorry.
Can boot from SD... bye bye optical drive 1 sata only but you can expand it via pci as user demand... modular! I need just one sata for my SSD drive.
SODimm 667Mhz works at 533Mhz without problems on it I have tons of them _________________ ikir
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Re: Introducing Sam460ex Posted on 2-Apr-2010 20:35:14
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| @Tuxedo Quote:
1 - 64 mb was really too low for wb use...we need at least 128, any chache to get 128mb for gfx instead of installing an external gfx card? 2 - the 1GHz cpu was rendering the brlender test scene in the same time of my G3@666, I hope that you all have considered to put in the board also the fastest 460 cpu that was aroun 1,2 GHz right? If it need active cooling no problem here... |
Well for the first point I would say that it depends on what you need to do, 64Mb would be enough for some, while other have the option o installing a nice PCI-E card on that X4 slot. As for Blender, I would suggest those interested in 3D graphics to get an X1000.
Other Amiga software should run quite nicely as it already runs quite well on current Sam _________________ SamFlex Complete 800Mhz System + AmigaOS 4.1 Update 4 Amiga 2000 DKB 2MB ChipRam GVP G-Force040 Picasso 2 OS3.9 BB2 AmigaCD 32
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Re: Introducing Sam460ex Posted on 2-Apr-2010 20:38:10
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| @DAX
Yes the concept is: modular.
Need a better gfx card? Plug a gfx card Need more sata? Plug a 4 x sata card _________________ ikir
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Re: Introducing Sam460ex Posted on 2-Apr-2010 20:41:11
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| Good work! |
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Re: Introducing Sam460ex Posted on 2-Apr-2010 20:42:18
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| @ikir
It's nice news indeed but.. WHY have silicon motion chip onboard??? 99% of the users will install a Radeon anyway.. This bandwidth could have been used for a SATA chip instead IMO. Thus freeing up the expansion slots for other things..
I wonder if they've made this choice because they're planning to use the board for a laptop case.
Sorry but no optical drive??? This is NOT a serious option for desktop usage. Maybe for embedded use where machines are preinstalled and can easily be updated via SD. Last edited by Samwel on 02-Apr-2010 at 08:43 PM. Last edited by Samwel on 02-Apr-2010 at 08:43 PM.
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Re: Introducing Sam460ex Posted on 2-Apr-2010 20:45:53
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Re: Introducing Sam460ex Posted on 2-Apr-2010 20:47:17
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Well... On my current SetUp(A1Se/Radeon9250) 1 - I use a 1680x1050 screen res(really normal resolution nowadays...), and with many windows/screens opened and comopsiting turned on 64mb was really too low...and I dont think 1680x1050 res and compositing on was a topHW demanding specs...
I mentioned Blender only because was, atm, the only thing that I can compare... For the cpu statement I think also to look on camera photos for example, not only to have 3d demanding apps...just to port one example on my littel viewer LoView a 10Mpx photo takes around 3secs to be displayed and that wasnt a nice time if you would see photos from your last trip that probably was around 500/1000... Also using OWB(and probably TimberWolf was slower than OWB if no hw cairo will be released) was ratehr slow on my setup, so more speed was need also to do "simple" surfing...without considering flash videos...since we my get a working flash player rather soon how funny was if we have it but we cant use it?
Hope that now my statement regarding the cpu power was well understood... I still consider that new board a good thing, but plz...introdcing a new board that was still(in 2010) slower than the faster A1(g4@around 1GHz) was rather weird to me....
So if a 1,2GHz(better with some sort of active cooling and overclock like on sam 733), will be releassed I think that can be a real entry level...only that...no toher things... And no high user thoughts... _________________ Simone"Tuxedo"Monsignori, Perugia, ITALY.
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Re: Introducing Sam460ex Posted on 2-Apr-2010 20:49:06
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| @Samwell
that's exactly what i think.... The gfx board better to have a PCI one like on sam flex, the sata was a must to have at least 2 unit supported(hdd and burner)...
And also...if you will put more card on it te price will grow... _________________ Simone"Tuxedo"Monsignori, Perugia, ITALY.
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Re: Introducing Sam460ex Posted on 2-Apr-2010 20:53:09
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| @Samwell At least on OSX i'm not using optical drives since a while. for my usage i don't need it on my Sam either. I used my SAM dvd drive just to install OS4. I thinking putting a second HD/SSD on my MacBook Pro instead of superdrive and my work mate did this on his Mac Mini (2 HD).
Gfx chip is included for who doesn't need better gfx power. Gfxcard are cheap anyway if you need one for bigger desktop res or "gaming" (quote needed on amiga land).
My sam440ep with 64MB is enough now for example. _________________ ikir
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