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Software News   Software News : IceFileSystem 1.13 released (MorphOS)
   posted by Returner on 15-Aug-2010 12:44:43 (5761 reads)
IceFileSystem 1.13 released for MorphOS.

IceFileSystem is a 64bit disk filesystem supporting a high number of useful features:

64bit file/partition/extent sizes (actually very close to 2^63 bytes).
No self imposed fragmentation of large files unless there is not enough contigious space available.



All metadata on disk is checksummed. This means any errors on disk will be detected a lot quicker.

Meta level jornalling. Journalling makes operations to disk atomic.

Hardlinks (directory and file), softlinks, notification, examine all, record locking,
file comments. Fully supported.

Supports almost any 2^x media sector sizes. Filesystem layout on disk is not dependant on a specific underlying sector size.
Filesystem may however place data on disk so that it is optimal for the sector size used.

Filesystem does not get slower for larger partitions (scales very well), or when heavily fragmented.

No limit in # of files/dirs in partition/dirs.

Handles removable media.

Supports optional recycle dir.

Supports automatically truncated log files and optional filesystem logfile.

Wastes only 128k (and preallocates another 128k for meta space) for filesystem administration data, regardless of partition size.

Dynamic handling of cache memory. Memory is given back (progressivly) to system when not used.

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Re: IceFileSystem 1.13 released (MorphOS)
Posted on 15-Aug-2010 14:47:34
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Wonderfull !

Think about a 68k version, thanks !

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If mos dont have 64bit filesystem already then this is a great.

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It already has 64bits support with Ext2FS and NTFS, but this one is obviously much more amiga-oriented.

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Looks intresting, I wonder if this can be used for a bootable partition?

Also:

"IceFileSystem and all its support tools can be downloaded right here, latest version is 1.13.
The filesystem itself will start to slow down the more it is used unless
there is a keyfile in place. Keyfile costs 10 euro. When 300 of these keyfiles
have been sold, IceFileSystem will be released as Freeware.
300 keyfiles to go (since August 14 2010)."

Hmmm...


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Quote:
Looks intresting, I wonder if this can be used for a bootable partition?

If it's possible to place it in the RDB, then yes, i think can be used for a bootable partition. I haven't tried tho'. But boot.img (the kernel, or the "kickstart" more) must still be on a partition readable by the firmware (FFS, SFS or HFS on a Mac).

About the 300 regs stuff, think of it as kind of a reverse-bounty. The author could said, "if 300 ppl. donate i'll do a 64 bit FS for MorphOS" and start collecting the money first, then the donaters wait for months to have something at their hands. Instead, he did the hard work first, so we really can't complain, I think. :)


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Quote:
Looks intresting, I wonder if this can be used for a bootable partition?


Yes, booting system partition works great. Boot image must be on partition supported
by firmware though.


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Good work!

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The filesystem itself will start to slow down the more it is used unless
there is a keyfile in place. Keyfile costs 10 euro. When 300 of these keyfiles
have been sold, IceFileSystem will be released as Freeware.


I think such filesystem should be part of OS distribution. However, new features are definitely worth the money. I hope 300 keyfiles will be sold soon.

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Looks like it is about time to nuke my OSX partition in favor IceFS.


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Okey, so I put all the files on my new 2.5 install, (dual boot OSX Macmini) including L: but I still can't see the filesystem in the edit partition, what increadably simple thing am I doing wrong?


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Congratulations for this new tool for MorphOS.


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Okey, so I put all the files on my new 2.5 install, (dual boot OSX Macmini) including L: but I still can't see the filesystem in the edit partition, what increadably simple thing am I doing wrong?


HDConfig does not know about IceFileSystem, so use "Filesystem: Custom"
and "ID: 0x49434501"

And remember to load filesystem into RDB.

Edit:
Load into RDB like this:
Click on the magnifying glass next to the harddrive in HDConfig
main window. Select "Edit filesystems.." then "Add.." (add L:IceFileSystem
here) then  insert "1" and "13" for version,revision fields. Let priority,
stacksize and patchflags be what they where. Set "Filesystem: Custom" and
put "0x49434501" in string gadget. Click "Ok" and Save changes.

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Ah, I'm using 'Mac' not MBR, I can't see a way to add a filesystem, So, as far I can tell, unusable on a apple based hardware that you wish to dual boot into MacOSX.

I'll try it on my Peg 2... sometime..


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Looks like it is about time to nuke my OSX partition in favor IceFS.


I don't think Mac's can boot from RDB partitioned disks though so, probably
only way to use IceFileSystem there is on a second harddrive.. or someone correct me.

I'll correct myself.. One can also use IceFileSystem on Mac's by using a mountlist (create it with Mounter tool).

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@Returner

Thanks for that! Got it working on my Peg with RDB, I'll try it with my actual sys: partition. Soon...!

Done it, working... Or seems to be..

Any programs for testing speed?

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Sounds good. Could be interesting to see benchmarks of IFS vs SFS vs JXFS... I had wondered about using TLSF algorithm for allocating disk space myself, so very interested to see how it performs in practice.

Also seems the author (Leif) is potentially open to porting it to other platforms. And I thought it was cool to see that it was written in E

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@Returner

It should be possible mount partitions manually so RDB is not strictly needed. But we will see... last time I tried OSX it had autoreboot option enabled so nothing to lose there


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Cool! ;)


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Nice ! Seems to be on par with filesystems like ext4...

Anyone knows the filesize limit ? And what about the subdirectories limit (if there's any, I'm not sure what "No limit in # of files/dirs in partition/dirs." means) ?

Oh, and any word on MOS-Team embracing it as the official "preferred" MOS filesystem ?

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yep, how about to release it to 68k under the same terms?

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