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Re: Competition for programmers Posted on 23-Apr-2011 7:53:04
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| While its good idea, and have words about aos4, still a bit mos centric only: prize should be or Efika/mos or Sam/os4 (so winner have choice), or both :) Because aos4 coders will have no interest, as prize is efika with morphos (and as result, less coders in the competition). _________________ Join us to improve dopus5! zerohero's mirror of os4/os3 crosscompiler suites
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Re: Competition for programmers Posted on 23-Apr-2011 8:53:25
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| @kas1e Agreed. _________________ SamFlex Complete 800Mhz System + AmigaOS 4.1 Update 4 Amiga 2000 DKB 2MB ChipRam GVP G-Force040 Picasso 2 OS3.9 BB2 AmigaCD 32
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Re: Competition for programmers Posted on 23-Apr-2011 9:07:15
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| @kas1e
I agree with you, AmigaOS 4.x programmers will surely not be that motivated. Moreover one doesn' t feel to give ideas contribution to competitors. _________________ SAM440EP-FLEX @ 733 Mhz, AmigaOS 4.1 Update 1
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Re: Competition for programmers Posted on 23-Apr-2011 10:20:48
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| Well it's even worth the other way round.
Someone wanting to develop for MorphOS and hopeing to win MorphOS-capable HW would be forced to make sure his SW also works under OS4 ....
Bout a SAM as price, well sounds nice but such a system would have a retail several times higher than the Efika.
This is mostly due to the Efika being much weaker than any atleast-as-good-supported G4 Mac which can be snapped of eBay for down to 50Euro. I somehow suspect that this lack of a real market for the Efika today is the real reason why it was choosen as a price. Allmost like putting an ISDN card or parallel-handscanner as price for a classic competiton. _________________ - We don't need good ideas, we haven't run out on bad ones yet - blame Canada
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Re: Competition for programmers Posted on 23-Apr-2011 12:12:08
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| AmigaOS 4 requirement prohibits to use some advanced MorphOS features and technologies. The prize looks neat and I would have a good use for it, but well, with such a requirement I pass. _________________ RastPort
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Re: Competition for programmers Posted on 23-Apr-2011 12:45:09
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| The price is as interesting as a piece of toilet paper. _________________ I'm an antique. Don't light my fuse
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Re: Competition for programmers Posted on 23-Apr-2011 14:34:06
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| That's a bit harsh. A least they are being pro-active. _________________
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Re: Competition for programmers Posted on 23-Apr-2011 14:41:22
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| I personally am not that interested in MorphOS but this sounds like a good initiative nonetheless, well done. Oh, and I like that case! _________________ Proud Amigan since 1987 Owner of various Commodore and a SAM440ep\OS4.1FE See them on http://retro.furinkan.org/
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Re: Competition for programmers Posted on 23-Apr-2011 16:19:44
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| Every effort is better as no effort.
And I find the non-constructive comments as the one with the toiletpaper rather ... ####ty. Did you write the former Amiga-magazines a letter with such comments when they did a raffle or as such with a price you didn't like ? Absolutely despicable behavior.
And what's with the "it should have been a SAM" .... fine, maybe you should sponsor one. _________________ - Proud Member Of The Belgian Amigaclub Since 2003 -
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Re: Competition for programmers Posted on 23-Apr-2011 18:50:59
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And what's with the "it should have been a SAM" .... fine, maybe you should sponsor one.
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That can be called like someone not like the right critic.
It should have nothing, not sam, not anything. And no one "should" anything for anyone. But if someone already start some initiative (and does not matter in which area), and as in our case, want to cover both areas : and amigaos4 and morphos, then why not make it better ?
For what any amigaos4 developer, will boring about that , if the price : morphos machine ? And what you mean "fine, maybe you should sponsor one" ? We (and i am personally) already sponsor enough in different areas. And if something done a bit wrong, then its done a bit wrong.
If they want interest coders from os4/mos, then for sure the best way its make prize and for mos and for aos4 coders. Sure, money and so on, but life is hard and all the other usuall stuff.
I mean now its just unlogic. "amigaos4" words here, but everything related to morphos, and even more : morphos coders just forced to make their stuff works on os4 (strange in such compo-rulz, really).
And that "Every effort is better as no effort" is funny as well. Let's make crapo demos, crapo software, and everything crapo, just with words "but its better than nothing". And then after some more years (if not already) everyone will know : amiga and related stuff , its everything "better than nothing".Last edited by kas1e on 23-Apr-2011 at 06:59 PM.
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Re: Competition for programmers Posted on 23-Apr-2011 19:19:04
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| To quote my post to Morphzone.org:
Hmm... it could make sense if OS3 (68k) contribution was allowed. Because 68k code runs on both systems but it also allows using most of new features in MorphOS (MUI4, CGX5, most of other new APIs etc). 68k development systems are also quite accessible (WinUAE) so you broaden potential developers taking part. _________________ Amiga Developer Amiga 500, Efika, Mac Mini and PowerBook
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Re: Competition for programmers Posted on 23-Apr-2011 21:56:07
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| It feels quite strange also for me and lately we discuss it a lot on our italian forum If you start a competition accepting projects for both camps why reward the winner with a MorphOS only machine ? (and viceversa of course)
I don't see the logic here, if you can't reward with 2 different hardware (1 for MOS and 1 for OS4) it would be logic to reward with somethings else, maybe a multiplatform software like Hollywood, CubicIDE and so on ... aniway Last edited by samo79 on 23-Apr-2011 at 09:56 PM.
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Re: Competition for programmers Posted on 23-Apr-2011 22:31:06
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| hello all,
if you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask on my mail : papiosaur2 [at hotmail.fr
precision : OS3 (68k) contribution are allowed because 68k code runs on both systems
@ samo79 : i can provide Hollywood 4 with the price if necessary
papiosaur http://www.meta-morphos.org Last edited by Papiosaur on 23-Apr-2011 at 11:08 PM.
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Re: Competition for programmers Posted on 23-Apr-2011 23:03:10
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| @Papiosaur
Ok then
Please don't take it personally or criticism it's just an opinion about a very good initiative _________________ BACK FOR THE FUTURE
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Re: Competition for programmers Posted on 24-Apr-2011 0:32:14
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| darn shame i'm not at all familiar with developing for any of the amiga platforms, 'cause that set-up is sweet!!
initiatives like this are always welcome, regardless of which next-gen 'flavor' is targeted. thanks to RELEC and @papiosaur for their efforts. if only i had a case like that for my SAM.....
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Re: Competition for programmers Posted on 24-Apr-2011 15:41:28
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| @Antique
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Which can be rather interesting at the correct moment...
But an old woman's worn-out night gown will beat it in attractiveness for sure anyway.
OldFart _________________ Life is a waste of time. Time is a waste of life. Get wasted all the time and you'll have the time of your life!
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