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Software News   Software News : RunInUAE r5 released - Just double-click to run inside UAE!
   posted by ChrisH on 14-Jul-2011 13:23:10 (4708 reads)


RunInUAE is the easiest & most fool-proof way to run Classic (68k) Amiga games & software on AmigaOS4, especially if you have an AmigaForever CD.

See read more for more.


This release has various small improvements to RunInUAE:
* Reduced the need for an Amiga Forever CD (just supply your own Kickstart files.)
* Improved WHDLoad compatibility.
* Improved E-UAE compatibility, accuracy & performance.
* Fixed an installation bug.
* Fixed RunInUAE to (hopefully!) work on Update 3 of OS4.1.
* Added support for DMS disk images.
* and more![/b]

You can download it from here:
RunInUAE.lha

Details of the changes:
* If you do not have an Amiga Forever CD, you no-longer have to supply files from a Workbench 3.1 disk (as a suitable fake WB3.1 will be created).

* Improved WHDLoad compatibility, by adding the "kick34005.A500" & "kick40068.A1200" files, which are needed by some games (such as Lucas Arts adventures).

* Various tweaks to E-UAE's configuration, to improve emulation compatibility, accuracy & performance. Heavily based on DAX's suggestions.

* Fixed an installation bug where RunInUAE might not run right automatically (until it had been run once manually).

* Improved patching of Workbench, to hopefully work on all versions of OS4, including Update 3 for OS4.1.

* Added support for DMS disk images (works the same as ADFs).

* Added option to not change Workbench 3.1's screenmode prefs.

* Added a Help menu item (also recognises the Help key).

* Mason's pretty icons are now used for folders & E-UAE's icon.

What is RunInUAE?
RunInUAE is intended to make it incredibly easy to run old Amiga games on Amiga OS4, and it comes with an easy installer, so that you can:

* Run almost any HD installed 68k game (or program) inside E-UAE, by simply double-clicking on it! Including WHDLoad & JOTD JST installed games.

* Run ADF & DMS games by double-clicking them. (Needs a little bit of manual set-up if you don't have at least OS4.1 Update 1.) Otherwise just drag & drop them onto RunInUAE's icon in AmiDock or it's AppIcon.

* Run CD32 & CDTV games from real or virtual CDs. (Compatibility is not great.)

* The installer can set-up E-UAE with full-speed Sam-optimised settings. But it can also use your existing E-UAE settings if you want.

* The installer will copy the necessary Kickstart ROMs off an Amiga Forever CD, if you don't already have them installed.

* You do *not* need to set-up any assignments, nor create or edit any cryptic scripts or config files, for it to work! (Unlike alternative solutions.)
    

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Re: RunInUAE r5 released - Just double-click to run inside U
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Really Great!!!! Thanks a lot!


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thanks for the update Chris


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Good show, thanks!


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Well done Chris! Keep up the good work.

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Thanks for the update. New config seems to work better here on 733MHz Sam, makes setting up E-UAE a doddle.

How do I change settings so that E-UAE opens a window on Workbench? I tried adding

Quote:
# Prompt for screen mode to use; public, custom, ask
# amiga.screen_type=custom
amiga.publicscreen=Workbench


to .uaerc_RunInUAE but doesn't seem to have made a difference?


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@gtmooya Quote:
How do I change settings so that E-UAE opens a window on Workbench?

I never understand why anyone wants to do that, because you will end-up with a postage-stamp sized window on a modern LCD monitor! But since you ask...

... Your mistake is to edit the ".uaerc_RunInUAE" config file, as this is only used by HD installed games (not ADF games). Please remove the lines you added, and change the main ".uaerc" file instead.

You MAY also need to change "gfx_fullscreen_amiga=true" to "gfx_fullscreen_amiga=false". I haven't checked. If you still have problems then let me know.

Last edited by ChrisH on 15-Jul-2011 at 08:53 AM.


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Great version!

As usual with every new level of added polish I re-new my advice to eventually include it with a future version of OS4...


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Nice, thanks !


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Only one word.

FANTASTIC

Well done.

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Great, since it gives "OS 3.x" apps and games (OCS/ECS/AGA) compatibility feel.
Should be part of the OS


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Should be part of the OS


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Quote:
Should be part of the OS

It's always nice to hear that (and I kinda agree!), but that is of course up to Hyperion. It would undoubtably need an improved GUI, but I think that is now at the top of my RunInUAE To Do List anyway.

The other issue is whether Hyperion could supply the required Kickstart & Workbench files, so you didn't need to buy an AmigaForever CD. I think their settlement with Amiga Inc gives them the rights to Workbench & Kickstart 3.1, which is *almost* all that is needed... but they would also need to supply Kickstart 1.3 for all those ADF games. I'm not sure what they could do about Kickstart 1.3... maybe reach some agreement with Cloanto? I doubt Amiga Inc would be reasonable, even though they now seem ready to license the Amiga name & trademarks to any Tom, Dick or Harry.

EDIT: Hmmmm, I guess if all else failed, the A1200 was supposed to run most A500 games, so I suppose it might be possible to reuse Kickstart 3.1 for that purpose. It would not be as compatible, nor quite as smooth on a Sam440, but might be better than nothing...

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Should be part of the OS

Isn't there no option to just include it into workbench,just like the context UAE starter on MorphOS/Ambient?
If you rightclick an adf in Ambient, you get a menu to chose with which config that adf should be launched.


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@Zylesea

Quote:
If you rightclick an adf in Ambient, you get a menu to chose with which config that adf should be launched.


RunInUAE is more powerful concept - it supports even WHDLoad installed games and 68k executables. It woukd be a good idea to add it as contribution to the OS, if all legal questions are solved (eg. KS ROMs, proper licence for all files in the package etc.).

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@ChrisH

Thanks, just curious really and useful for some strategy games. I get small 'postage size' display when UAE runs on it's own screen anyway on my widescreen monitor. Thanks.


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You've got 2 options to solve the litlle screen trouble (mostly due to LCD Wide screens) :

One is to set RunInUAE to run in 640x480 (best option is to modify the .uaerc file), second is to use the overscan mode :

Here is my .uaerc setting for display (with a Wide LCD screen) :

# Display settings
gfx_width_windowed=720
gfx_height_windowed=560
gfx_lores=false
gfx_linemode=scanlines
gfx_correct_aspect=false
gfx_center_horizontal=smart
gfx_center_vertical=smart

I'musing 720*560 since it allows me to play overscan games (such as Settlers or demos) and "scanlines" to get a more oldschool display (and avoid aliasing too).

In 720*560, I'm still no getting a full screen but nearly (there are empty space on the right/left/top/bottom of the screen). In 640x480, i can get a full screen without any problem.


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Such an integrated Amiga 68k compatibility as default in AmigaOS 4.x would be a nice "killer application" for the AmigaOne X1000.
A new user would probabily want to be able by default to just download Sensible Soccer WHDLoad, click on it and have a match with its Competition Pro joystick connected to the X1000...


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@gtmooya Quote:
I get small 'postage size' display when UAE runs on it's own screen anyway on my widescreen monitor.

That can happen if you have DCC enabled. You have two choices (both mentioned in the manual...):
* Manually add a 320x256 (or 320x240) resolution using Sys:Prefs/ScreenMode .
* Use RunInUAE's "Settings > Set default screen size to > 640x480" menu, but this will result in lower performance.

@K-L Quote:
One is to set RunInUAE to run in 640x480 (best option is to modify the .uaerc file)

There is no need to modify the .uaerc file to do this, as RunInUAE already has the option built-in as a menu option (see above).

I can't comment on Widescreen LCDs, since I wouldn't ever buy such a monitor (yuck)...

Last edited by ChrisH on 16-Jul-2011 at 01:30 PM.


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ChrisH : yeah, I know since I've been using it for a while now. But tweaking the .uaerc file is mandatory if you want to be more accurate in your choice (scanlines) for example).

Moreover, even adding a 320x256 mode in the screenmode prefs won't avoid the post stamp size, this is the LCD at fault.

RunInUAE is an excellent piece of software. The best usage of it is to use it with a 4/3 LCD display.


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Excellent work Chris. Thanks. This is a very important development for os4 and should certainly be included with the OS and fully integrated with a polished gui for config. Lack of 68k compatibility really throttled a lot of classic users from going to next gen os4/ppc systems due to this back in 2002 on..

How fast is emulation speed on productivity software? For instance how fast would Pixel Pro or some other 68k only apps..?

Also on a 1ghz box like a peg2 or a sam do AGA games play full speed? How good is Cd32 joypad support and CD32 , CDTV emu? (any titles known working?)

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