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Software News   Software News : Debian Linux for AmigaOne X1000
   posted by zerohero on 15-Apr-2012 0:41:05 (10425 reads)

Debian Linux is now available for AmigaOne X1000 First Contact customers.

Debian has support for both cores of the PWRficient PA6T CPU and can also access more than 4 GB of RAM.

Debian requires some know how to install and use. A special installation guide has been prepared which explains everything you need to know.


A special thanks goes out to Varisys for the initial kernel, A-EON Technology for the firmware changes and all the volunteers that have made this possible.

Registered customers can download the required installation guide and kernel directly from Hyperion Entertainment in the downloads area. Registration enables customers to also download future AmigaOS updates and gain access to the .support forum.
    

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Re: Debian Linux for AmigaOne X1000
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@tommysammy
Please do lame/mplayer/blender benchmarks , 1:1 the same as here

The same files, the same params, etc,etc


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@kas1e first i must ask my boss .


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are you an end user with Limited Edition or a betatester?


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Poster: tommysammy Date: 15-Apr-2012 18:06:35I am betatester


no youre not, youre SPONGEBOB! :p


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Tell me which tests to run and where to get them from and I will run them as soon as I complete the installation of Debian Squeeze Linux PPC on my X1000 later today (Laker's basketball game on now, so the Linux install will have to wait)

I also have a dual 2.7GHz G5 PowerMac and a dual 2.0GHz G5 PowerMac (currently missing a hard drive and RAM) that I can install Debian Linux PPC to do comparison tests.

I can also install Debian Linux PPC on my dual 1.42GHz G4 PowerMac, to see how it compares against the X1000.

All these benchmark tests are not really relevant to OS4.1.5 use, as the X1000 is clearly the fastest computer designed to run OS4.x, so it does not matter if a G4, or G5 PowerMac can run Linux benchmarks faster, or as fast as the X1000, as the G4 and G5 PowerMac's do NOT run OS4.x.

For people who are interested in running OS4.x on the fastest available hardware, the choice is clear....... buy an X1000!


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All these benchmark tests are not really relevant to OS4.1.5 use, as the X1000 is clearly the fastest computer designed to run OS4.x, so it does not matter if a G4, or G5 PowerMac can run Linux benchmarks faster, or as fast as the X1000, as the G4 and G5 PowerMac's do NOT run OS4.x. For people who are interested in running OS4.x on the fastest available hardware, the choice is clear....... buy an X1000!

Thanks amigadave, I could not have said it better myself.

Although I'm not really a Linux fan, I have tried hard to like it over the past few years. Debian is well supported by a large free software base (over 30,000 titles) and allows AmigaONE X1000 owners to run software not available under AmigaOS 4. eg Open Office, LibreOffice etc, etc.

But for fun I prefer running the AmigaOS.

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Tell me which tests to run and where to get them from and I will run them as soon as I complete the installation of Debian Squeeze Linux PPC on my X1000 later today (Laker's basketball game on now, so the Linux install will have to wait)

I also have a dual 2.7GHz G5 PowerMac and a dual 2.0GHz G5 PowerMac (currently missing a hard drive and RAM) that I can install Debian Linux PPC to do comparison tests.

I can also install Debian Linux PPC on my dual 1.42GHz G4 PowerMac, to see how it compares against the X1000.


Yeah, cool ! For first just the x1000-debian tests will be enough, but making the same tests later on the powerpcas with the same debian installed on (the same version, the same settings), will be also pretty intersting to know.

For the tests:

1. Blender

Download version 2.48 (only that one, not newer, or older). And run it like this:
Quote:

blender -b bricks_and_water_plugin.blend -o pool -F JPEG -f 0


and put result here

2. mplayer

That can be latest one i assume, and run it like this:
Quote:

mplayer -benchmark -nosound -ao null -vo null -lavdopts skiploopfilter=none


and put results here

3. Lame

Just get the latest version of mame, download AKsack.wav there

and just run it like:

Quote:

lame AKsack.wav


and put results here.

Quote:

All these benchmark tests are not really relevant to OS4.1.5 use


Of course they not. But some of us just want to know the real speed of the x1000. Because as we know aos4 are limited here and here, beta here and here, but linux instead matured enough. So, by benchmarking on the unixes , we will see the real speed of the x1000 as hardware, and so, we can know what we can expect to be updated and changes in the terms of speed on os4 someday.


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Awesome news! One of the benefits of having this running is to be able to see what Linux does in hardware drivers, peeking device registers and such things, to help guide development of AmigaOS driver development.


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1. Blender

Download version 2.48 (only that one, not newer, or older). And run it like this:
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blender -b bricks_and_water_plugin.blend -o pool -F JPEG -f 0


brick_and_water_plugin.blend is my property and I do not give permision for it's use in benchmarking linuxes


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brick_and_water_plugin.blend is my property and I do not give permision for it's use in benchmarking linuxes


Omg. How can you stop someone to do benchmarking ? (and why you even worry about?) Sounds really strange should to say.. It's ok that it was used for tests on windows and morphos, but not on linux ?

@amigadave

Exclude blender from tests then, or let's find out other test plugin. I think someone else will point you on other one.

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Also linux kernel compilation (or some other heavy & multihtreadable project) test would be nice to see.
(high memory bandwidth and large L2 should help in that test to keep both cores busy)


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Omg. How can you stop someone to do benchmarking ? (and why you even worry about?) Sounds really strange should to say.. It's ok that it was used for tests on windows and morphos, but not on linux ?


No it's not okay for benchmarking on any OS. It's an example of how to use the plugins provided with the amiga port. If you want to do yet more pointless benchmarks find your own ip to use.

Anyway it won't work on standard installs of blender as it needs non standard plugins.


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Aha got it. Can you suggest some other plugin which can be more or less ok for tests ?


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@kas1e

Nobody can stop anyone to use anything for benchmark. Simply there is NO such a thing like a LEGAL OR MORAL limit about that.

But the attitude and some of the responses to this thread are really surprinsing and I would add they are just another grain in the mountain of dust that is covering the dying of the platform.

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Kind of agree. I think ppls just fear that benchmarks even on linux will be slow. But i hope AmigaDave will not fear to make them.


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Aha got it. Can you suggest some other plugin which can be more or less ok for tests ?


Use the test.blend from the other benchmarking threads, it designed as a benchmark. I can't find the link.


[edit]test not text![/edit]

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Nobody can stop anyone to use anything for benchmark. Simply there is NO such a thing like a LEGAL OR MORAL limit about that.


Whether you think there is a legal or moral limit is irelavent, the blend file is not designed as a benchmark, and will not work properly unless someone takes the time to find and build linuxPPC version of the plugins it designed to demonstrate, and so it will give distoerted results (it'll probably appear faster than it should, or it might simply fail, I'm not sure which) and I would rather it were not misused in that way.


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Moderator: OK guys, this was a simple misunderstanding so please be nice.

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