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Software News   Software News : Odyssey Web Browser Bounty Project for AmigaOS & AROS
   posted by ASiegel on 12-Nov-2013 19:15:47 (8328 reads)
The aim of the Odyssey Bounty Project is to license a current version of the full-featured Odyssey Web Browser and share it under an open source license so it can be fully ported to AmigaOS and AROS.



While the author of the Odyssey Web Browser has previously shared parts of his work entirely for free, which already improved the browser choices on these two platforms by a great deal, these existing ports of Odyssey use an outdated version of the Webkit browser engine and lack key functionality such as the capability to play HTML5 video.

For more information about the Odyssey Web Browser and the funding campaign, please visit:
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Re: Odyssey Web Browser Bounty Project for AmigaOS & AROS
Posted on 13-Nov-2013 15:24:59
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I will definitely donate to this bounty, as soon as I figure out what money I have available to me, after switching health insurance policies. I also have some expenses in the near future that are undetermined at this time, so I have to wait, before I can donate to anything, but want to show my support of this project, as I believe that the Odyssey web browser is the best that is available now for us to use and will continue to get better in the future.

Thanks to Fab for allowing this bounty and project to go forward.


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Re: Odyssey Web Browser Bounty Project for AmigaOS & AROS
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@fab:
how about to remain the head maintainer on the open repository, a person who may or may not accept others patches. i understand you like working on your own, likely because there is not much skilled enough people around. nevetheless we should think of pulling most advantage of this situation for the users, for the other developers but also for you. perhaps there are tasks you may easier delegate in this situation.

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Just donated 50 USD, we desperate need up-to-date web browser!


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Posted on 13-Nov-2013 17:57:18
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this is great news, as has been said the missing YT feature I feel has really been pluged by QT now, but its nice to have a modern browser for html5 apps. I cant help but feel the bounty is set a little high, I mean its more than what Timberwolf was able to raise and it just to make it opensource we still need developers to port it.

I will donate but I just wonder what happens to the money if the project falls though, how long will it last, I hate seeing these bounty with money attached to it but have clearly been dead for a long time like the Flash port, I do feel future bounty should make it clearer and maybe close dead or in-active bounty and put the money towards other bounties

Last edited by amigang on 13-Nov-2013 at 06:07 PM.
Last edited by amigang on 13-Nov-2013 at 06:05 PM.


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@ amigang
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I cant help but feel the bounty is set a little high, I mean its more than what Timberwolf was able to raise and it just to make it opensource we still need developers to port it.

I am afraid you are mistaken. The Project Timberwolf campaign raised 7,063.69 EUR, which would be 9,468.17 US dollars with today's exchange rate. So, the bounty goal for Odyssey is almost 2,000 USD below the amount that was raised for Timberwolf.

It should also be noted that Project Timberwolf was aimed at a single operating system only and did not guarantuee that the sources would be shared so it could be ported to other platforms. Odyssey, on the other hand, will be made open source and explicitly targets AmigaOS as well as AROS, so it should attract a more diverse pool of donors (i.e. individuals & companies from the AmigaOS and AROS communities).

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I hate seeing these bounty with money attached to it but have clearly been dead for a long time like the Flash port, I do feel future bounty should make it clearer and maybe close dead or in-active bounty and put the money towards other bounties

You would be surprised. There have been quite a number of projects that had seemed to be dead for years even but suddenly found a developer and were completed rather quickly. Jason McMullan's work on the kickstart replacement projects is a prime example.

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I┤m unsure too, who will made the port when the bounty is reached?

That is one thing I wonder about as well.. There arent really that many developers left that would be capable of handling such a project.. Even if the goal is reached there is a good chance nothing will ever come out of it.

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@ASiegel

Also Timber Wolf is still not finished. I am hoping that OWB will only see the bounty released when it is actually done and useable.

I still hope that Timber Wolf will be completed one day then OS4 will be in a much better position.


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Re: Odyssey Web Browser Bounty Project for AmigaOS & AROS
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It would be good if we can have a slimline browser that does not need more than 10 MB to open a web page.

If one is no work on a browser, optimize for under 10MB browser resource usage.

built in facebook,twitter posting, notify etc.

make browsing experience better, not just the same.

Its a good project, lets see if anyone can think of future capabilities.


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@Tomas

Most probebly kas1e will be the OS4 mantainer ...


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1. that any third-party dependencies with code changes will not be opened


Those changes are not of such a nature they would break Odyssey builds.


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Donated 50$

Hoping the best for this project.

Thanks Fab to accept to sell your sources and thanks to the OS4 volunteers to try to port them ( another bounty for their "salary" ? )

Seriously hoping that Qt5 will give us a very modern browser too.

Good luck

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I will hold out to see what Ssolie and his Timberwolf team produce.


I wasn't aware Ssolie had anything to do with Timberwolf...

Good idea for the bounty, it's always good to have more options available, and OWB is the browser I use when I'm using AOS.


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Ssolie after Amiwest has formed a team of developers to update and improve Timberwolf he made mention of it in a thread on amigans.net


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@eliyahu

You mentioned dependencies...

@developers for AmigaOS4

Although raw CPU power can counter lack of video h/w acceleration somewhat when talking about AmigaOne X1000, I would hope people realize that there is more to an AmigaOS4 version of Odyssey performing as well as the MorphOS version than just this port.

For example, what is the current status of development for video h/w acceleration and MUI-MPlayer/ffmpeg for AmigaOS4 at this juncture?
Won't this play a big part as well?

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Posted on 14-Nov-2013 16:27:46
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@Eliyahu

I'm pretty sure that's just a 'lost in translation' issue, and probably meant something like 'second class citizens' - referring entirely to missing technologies rather than any slight or insult.
More accurate would probably be "to untie the hands of users currently restricted to limited usage and observation of internet technologies, allowing them to actively consume, participate and interact on a more equal level with their peers".

It's been a while since I used a browser on OS4 (iBrowse days, can't remember if RA-OWB had come out back then ) so I can't personally gauge the gap between the current OS4 browsers and Odyssey.

Youtube aside, I personally love and make use of:
- per URL settings (allowing for different default options on different domains);
- hotlinks (especially supporting folders-as-hotlinks to allow drop-downs in the UI);
- I now have flash enabled by default, and disabled as required. The updated plugin/OWB internals introduced with 1.20 provides much better stability than the old one;
- Contextual menus/mime-actions (which can be broken out to scripts easily for even further simple AmigaDOS-level configurability for the AREXX-illiterate like me )

The whole browser is just really well thought-out and developed, and Fab is always happy to discuss any problems/improvements. Plus it's updated to the latest webkit pretty often, which gives essentially a bleeding edge browser on Amiga platforms that's been written to be easy to maintain and update to newer webkit versions.

Honestly, it's a no-brainer that's good for the whole community. As a MorphOS user, I'll probably contribute some to this bounty myself even though I already get it for free.


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Posted on 14-Nov-2013 17:06:35
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@Boot_WB

Its a good thing :) Fab would get the money whatever you choose, send money directly to him or the bounty but this way you help the rest of the community too. For me this browser is like ibrowse was on the classics.

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http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=32847&forum=32&start=20&viewmode=flat&order=0#591595

Jee. Did I post That 3 years ago ?


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I just donated US$20.00

Cheers,

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Oh, must have missed that... Maybe we'll have 2 up-to-date browsers then


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Donation made using my wife's PayPal account and Timberwolf on my X1000.

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