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Re: Introducing MultiViewer & MultiViewerNG Posted on 3-Jun-2015 11:10:44
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| If only has search for AmigaGuide, it will be nice. |
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Re: Introducing MultiViewer & MultiViewerNG Posted on 3-Jun-2015 11:19:45
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| @AmigaKit Always nice to see new software congrats!
As for this comment "An additional challenge was exploiting the significant advances in the AmigaOS 4 Reaction GUI system whilst providing as much functionality in the relatively limited 3.X version as possible." Isn't it possible to port as much of AmigaOS 4.x to the 3.1 OS? Why not start we've reaction? (known as ClassAct for 3.x systems) I'm pretty sure that an updated 3.x OS for 68k would sell more than 4.x for PPC. This way it'll be easier to follow your strategy to bring software for the so called Classic and NG.
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Re: Introducing MultiViewer & MultiViewerNG Posted on 3-Jun-2015 11:28:36
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| I though ReAction was part of OS3.9
The Only think ports had to change was the IExec->Function access for OS4
OK some classes may need updating.. _________________ Cross-developer on Windows, OS3, OS4, Linux; Current Projects:- Nephele Cloud App OS4 UserProfile System OS4 AmigaOneXE OS4.1.6
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Re: Introducing MultiViewer & MultiViewerNG Posted on 3-Jun-2015 11:50:29
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| AOS4's Reaction have had many updates since the time of ClassAct.
AOS4 simply has many function and featues that ClassAct don't have..
so its not that easy to have all advanced features from AOS4 in AOS3 becoarse of the limited gui.
René _________________ Debugging is a state of mind
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Re: Introducing MultiViewer & MultiViewerNG Posted on 3-Jun-2015 12:45:49
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| @RWO
Indeed BOOPSI classes on AmigaOS4 have gone through enormous improvements since 3.9, many thanks to yourself, Simon Archer, Massimo Tantignone and I'm sure quite a few others for their hard work on that over the years. _________________ BroadBlues On Blues BroadBlues On Amiga Walker Broad
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Re: Introducing MultiViewer & MultiViewerNG Posted on 3-Jun-2015 12:49:55
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Isn't it possible to port as much of AmigaOS 4.x to the 3.1 OS?
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In theory perhaps, but I think you'll find that Hyperion own AmigaOS4 not A-EON so you should negotiate with them (Hyperion) over that.
Reactopn / BOOPSI is quite integrated into the OS (intuition / gfx lib / layers etc) so a piecemeal backport might not be as easy as you think. _________________ BroadBlues On Blues BroadBlues On Amiga Walker Broad
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Re: Introducing MultiViewer & MultiViewerNG Posted on 3-Jun-2015 12:57:19
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| It's been an interesting 4 months and a lot of work, but I'm very pleased with the end result.
The design enables you to work in various ways at the users choice, tabbed or non tabbed, using the filelist to browse collections of files, or hiding it away for a more conventional approach. Saving collections of files as a reloadable list, the possibilty to create smart filelists using an arexx based save format, to watch directories or files and display the contants dynamically as they update.
I look forward to hearing the user feedback and seeing what other devs and more advanced might do with the arexx interface. _________________ BroadBlues On Blues BroadBlues On Amiga Walker Broad
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Re: Introducing MultiViewer & MultiViewerNG Posted on 3-Jun-2015 13:00:22
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| Really nice to see this up to date, and I hope it doesnt fall into the trap that gedit does of checking file type, checking magic number, then throwing a paddy and refusing to display Anything because it isnt the way its supposed to be. At the very least, if a file type is totally unknown, can a buffer segment, say the first meg if a multimeg file, be opened automatically using Type HEX or equivalent, with maybe preview windows of various decode attempts, each with sanity, system load and timeout checks?
With Datatype support and IFF implementation, from what I remember, a given IFF chunk is to be ignored by any en/decoder that doesnt support it, which given signed 32 bit values for size, means negative sized values are available for meta, enhanced decode, such as extending to 62 bits, or even through the IFF file concantenation method, a negative CAT size could possibly give size of file, or stream, in sub CATs, therby giving a 32 bit compatible 64/62 bit effective file, stream size?
How difficult will it be to extend, rewrite AOS graphics drivers to go from the current maximum (OS3?) of 16k*16k, to support Gigapixel superpan and deep space telescope imaging files of at least 32k in each direction, or multidisplay support given in Japan, there are 8k displays? _________________ The older and more respected a scientist is, the longer it takes to prove him wrong.
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Re: Introducing MultiViewer & MultiViewerNG Posted on 3-Jun-2015 13:07:37
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Really nice to see this up to date, and I hope it doesnt fall into the trap that gedit does of checking file type, checking magic number, then throwing a paddy and refusing to display Anything because it isnt the way its supposed to be. At the very least, if a file type is totally unknown, can a buffer segment, say the first meg if a multimeg file, be opened automatically using Type HEX or equivalent, with maybe preview windows of various decode attempts, each with sanity, system load and timeout checks?
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IT uses the datatypes system to identify and load files, you you want to load a arbitrary binary file as hex install a binary.datatype class (there are a few out there). _________________ BroadBlues On Blues BroadBlues On Amiga Walker Broad
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Re: Introducing MultiViewer & MultiViewerNG Posted on 3-Jun-2015 13:13:40
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| Assuming datatypes are the first ones to use the second core of AOS4 systems, this seems like test program for that.
Anyway, nice to read about new stuff!! _________________ - KimmoK // For freedom, for honor, for AMIGA // // Thing that I should find more time for: CC64 - 64bit Community Computer?
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Re: Introducing MultiViewer & MultiViewerNG Posted on 3-Jun-2015 13:25:03
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Assuming datatypes are the first ones to use the second core of AOS4 systems, this seems like test program for that.
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Interestng assumption, I'm not aware that anyone has suggested this is the case... _________________ BroadBlues On Blues BroadBlues On Amiga Walker Broad
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Re: Introducing MultiViewer & MultiViewerNG Posted on 3-Jun-2015 13:38:29
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| @Andy Is marking of text by mouse (to do a copy via ctrl+c for example) didn't works for amiga guide files the same in your app as in multiview ? Probably it will not (sadly) as problem is in the os4's multiview datatype itself :( Last edited by kas1e on 03-Jun-2015 at 01:39 PM.
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Re: Introducing MultiViewer & MultiViewerNG Posted on 3-Jun-2015 13:46:19
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| Excellent! An update to the veeeery limited old Multiview _________________ - Don't get fooled by my avatar, I'm not like that (anymore, mostly... maybe only sometimes) > Amiga Classic and OS4 developer for OnyxSoft.
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Re: Introducing MultiViewer & MultiViewerNG Posted on 3-Jun-2015 13:59:51
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| I know that there is not yet a standardised way to implement the imagery and position of the close gadget for tabs and that it is application specific : but I think that a square with AmigaOS4 default colour is better than white and red cross in circle (like OWB from Joerg Strohmayer). |
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Re: Introducing MultiViewer & MultiViewerNG Posted on 3-Jun-2015 14:01:21
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Re: Introducing MultiViewer & MultiViewerNG Posted on 3-Jun-2015 14:06:16
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| @Kas1e
Amigaguide.datatype limitations still apply, but as a work arround if you need to do that, RAmiga C copy whole displayed page, RAmiga T open new tab, RMAmiga V paste, mark and copy the section you need.
Unfortunatly amigaguide is pretty much a black box and short of a complete reimplmentation, improvements can only come from updating amigaguide.library and amigaguide.datatype _________________ BroadBlues On Blues BroadBlues On Amiga Walker Broad
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Re: Introducing MultiViewer & MultiViewerNG Posted on 3-Jun-2015 14:08:43
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| @ShadowSun
That was the most appropriate image in AISS, you can always replace TBIMAGES:listviewcancel with a prefered image if you want.
Ideally there would be a sysiclass image for tabs but there isn't yet... _________________ BroadBlues On Blues BroadBlues On Amiga Walker Broad
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Re: Introducing MultiViewer & MultiViewerNG Posted on 3-Jun-2015 14:10:11
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Re: Introducing MultiViewer & MultiViewerNG Posted on 3-Jun-2015 14:55:02
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| Let's hope the datatypes system will get some kind of upgrade sooner or later... Btw, a tabbed "MultiView" looks great! _________________ Proud Amigan since 1987 Owner of various Commodore and a SAM440ep\OS4.1FE See them on http://retro.furinkan.org/
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Re: Introducing MultiViewer & MultiViewerNG Posted on 3-Jun-2015 15:13:58
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| @BroadBlues
Very nice !!!
What is CodePad in the background of video? |
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