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Re: So who are A-Eon? Posted on 13-Feb-2010 23:28:43
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It seems to me that you are confusing Hyperion and A-eon with forum members.
By that I mean you, as a modrator, actually have some control over the submissions of forum members and the content of AW. When it comes to A-Eon and Hyperion, they are private companies, free to do or post whatever whenever and however they wish.
If you cant cope with that, or don't comprehend the difference between a public forum and a private company then you need some help...
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Re: So who are A-Eon? Posted on 13-Feb-2010 23:41:27
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It seems to me that you are confusing Hyperion and A-eon with forum members. |
Feel free to explain, as I don't understand why?
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When it comes to A-Eon and Hyperion, they are private companies, free to do or post whatever whenever and however they wish. |
Not a problem, unless they say they are going to do something and then don't. I have no problems understanding they're a private company, and this is a public forum. I've been a member since 2004. Also as I posted in this thread, and actually engaged myself in it, the moderator hat is off. Anything else would be against our own "code of honor". So in that regard, I have no control of anything in this thread._________________ Common sense - So rare it's almost like a super power |
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Re: So who are A-Eon? Posted on 14-Feb-2010 1:33:33
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There has been an announcement of this new hardware (X1000). We know that there are working prototypes and that the OS4 developers are working on porting OS4 over to it. We also know that it is expected to be ready for release this summer. So what is it still that you are missing? I mean, surely it would have been good if they have already put up a shiny new official website and all, but that would not make the product come any sooner, in fact it's probably better if they concentrate all their resources into development work now, rather than marketing, since they don't have a finished product to market yet anyway. You probably want to know how well they're doing and all, but since when do other companies in the computing world have an obligation to send weekly progress reports to their customers? Just give them some space to breateh and let them do the work and deliver the product, for heaven's sake..
Sure, Trevor promised that there will be this and that up and then it still did not happen. Is that good? No. Was it a good idea from him to raise false expectations? No. But he is human, and people do make honest mistakes. He had good intentions, and he has done a lot of good for the Amiga community, so in my opinion he deserves some respect. You've also contributed quite a lot with your excellent work on DirOpus4, and who knows maybe some day your hardware breaks and Trevor could come to your rescue and get you a new board to allow you to continue development, like he has done to so many others. We're all on the same train, so let's stay nice to each other and be a bit more forgiving if some of us ends up with personal life getting in the way of their Amiga activities. |
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Re: So who are A-Eon? Posted on 14-Feb-2010 2:26:11
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Do you realise that you , as an AW moderator, just disclosed the name behind the nick HyperionMP?
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If HyperionMP actually is still Ben Hermans, it might be a good idea to change that user's rank to something other than "Hyperion" --- unless something has changed since November 2007, BH is neither a shareholder of, nor employed by, Hyperion. Thus, *IF* "HyperionMP" is Ben Hermans these days, "HyperionMP" is unlikely to actually speak for Hyperion.
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Re: So who are A-Eon? Posted on 14-Feb-2010 9:42:46
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Re: So who are A-Eon? Posted on 14-Feb-2010 10:21:55
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Gosh, I'm so envious! I've been down with a terrible cold for a week, hardly able to say a word as the cough has robbed me of my voice. I'd LOVE to take a walk outside... or perhaps sit in front of my SAM because I have a decent new OS4 app to finish _________________ The Rear Window blog
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Re: So who are A-Eon? Posted on 14-Feb-2010 10:37:31
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Last week it went so far that Mr. Hermans wanted to put me out of my misery (link) which is quite harsh. |
Uh... How is it "harsh" to decide that it was worth posting to inform you that the reason Trevor was not answering your questions was that he was away?
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What's happening with this? A joint statement can't be that difficult, I mean the least common denominator is Ben Hermans, right? |
Perhaps they've noticed all the whining and realized the only way of avoiding even louder whining is to wait until they a) has the website up, and b) has something more they can announce.
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Re: So who are A-Eon? Posted on 14-Feb-2010 10:54:08
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Then why did he say there should be a joint statement and a new website in a few days? It's not like an expedition to Antarctica is something you just plan overnight. I'm not asking for a complete computer here, not even the specs for it. I'm just asking for what he said would happen. |
His posts since his return has indicated that he was not the one that would finalize and publish the website, and that he assumed it was on track when he left. That is not unreasonable.
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Re: So who are A-Eon? Posted on 14-Feb-2010 11:30:06
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His posts since his return has indicated that he was not the one that would finalize and publish the website, and that he assumed it was on track when he left |
Correct, thanks.
Also to avoid repetition
This thread: post 196
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Re: So who are A-Eon? Posted on 14-Feb-2010 12:00:38
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Re: So who are A-Eon? Posted on 14-Feb-2010 13:00:34
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Re: So who are A-Eon? Posted on 14-Feb-2010 13:11:06
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At a guess, Leo's optimistic gene :P
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Re: So who are A-Eon? Posted on 14-Feb-2010 13:18:20
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If HyperionMP actually is still Ben Hermans, it might be a good idea to change that user's rank to something other than "Hyperion" --- unless something has changed since November 2007, BH is neither a shareholder of, nor employed by, Hyperion. Thus, *IF* "HyperionMP" is Ben Hermans these days, "HyperionMP" is unlikely to actually speak for Hyperion. |
So HyperionMP really is just a (Hyperion) troll Last edited by marko on 14-Feb-2010 at 01:21 PM. Last edited by marko on 14-Feb-2010 at 01:21 PM.
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Re: So who are A-Eon? Posted on 14-Feb-2010 14:26:49
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Re: So who are A-Eon? Posted on 14-Feb-2010 14:27:57
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Re: So who are A-Eon? Posted on 14-Feb-2010 15:18:37
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You probably want to know how well they're doing and all, but since when do other companies in the computing world have an obligation to send weekly progress reports to their customers? |
Actually no, I don't. If anything I'd like to see a product, but it's too early for that.
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Sure, Trevor promised that there will be this and that up and then it still did not happen. Is that good? No. Was it a good idea from him to raise false expectations? No. But he is human, and people do make honest mistakes. |
As Trevor himself was surprised it wasn't up yet, I doubt it's him that made the mistake. I guess it's easy to blame him since he said it. I myself used the very same technique right here in this thread...
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You've also contributed quite a lot with your excellent work on DirOpus4, and who knows maybe some day your hardware breaks and Trevor could come to your rescue and get you a new board to allow you to continue development, like he has done to so many others. |
I bought an A1, it's broken by design
What I'm saying is that communication has been poor since the beginning, and it's still poor. I could go on and on about how I have been treated, as a paying customer, when I sent mails asking about things. At best I've been ignored, and I really dislike that. Lets just say I got tired and started to make some noise about it instead._________________ Common sense - So rare it's almost like a super power |
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Re: So who are A-Eon? Posted on 14-Feb-2010 15:20:05
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No, I said that much in my post the third week, that I didn't think he was responsible for it. While I was wrong about a few other things though. _________________ Common sense - So rare it's almost like a super power |
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Re: So who are A-Eon? Posted on 14-Feb-2010 15:27:27
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The English expression "to put someone out of their misery" means to kill that person. I think that's quite harsh. Here's a link you might want to read.
The other meaning, "to stop someone worrying, usually by giving them information that they have been waiting for", was of no use, since I got no information I was asking for. Last edited by zerohero on 14-Feb-2010 at 03:28 PM.
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Re: So who are A-Eon? Posted on 14-Feb-2010 15:50:40
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Re: So who are A-Eon? Posted on 14-Feb-2010 15:53:37
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Sound like your interpreting it in its worst meaning. |
Of course I am.
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Sense you where suffering from lack of information, giving you the information might put you out of your misery maybe. |
Just that I didn't get the information I was asking for._________________ Common sense - So rare it's almost like a super power |
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