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Poster | Thread | matthey
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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark Posted on 22-Apr-2021 22:08:30
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Joined: 14-Mar-2007 Posts: 2015
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That brings us back to this:
TheA500
I see you filed objection to this one.
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A-Eon/AmigaKit needs marketing names for new Amiga like computers since they may lose the sub-licensed right to use "AmigaOne". It will be interesting marketing them without "AmigaOS" but maybe they will switch to AROS as AmigaOS 4 may be in lawsuit and bankruptcy limbo for months if not years as we know from Amiga experience. Perhaps they could license them from Amiga Corporation but maybe Amiga Corporation would like to recoup the costs of lawsuits from previously licensing these marks before licensing them again. A-Eon has remained silent during the lawsuit despite them having more to lose than Hyperion as they are more heavily invested in the Amiga than Hyperion which is just a broke shell of a business. With so much to lose, they seem willing to take Ben's suggestion and "wait for the Court to rule".
"TheA500" suggests a mass produced affordable Amiga. The link provided is about an "AmigaMini" which is yet another FPGA Amiga although the "Amiga" name would have to be licensed. The product which does finally use the Amiga name should have a marketing advantage. This could be a simple relabeling of existing FPGA hardware or a Raspberry Pi using emulation in a custom Amiga case. Taking the easy route would likely tarnish the Amiga name and smart people could buy the same hardware without the Amiga name for less cost. Doing what is easy may result in a one and done product. The Amiga needs a product which has good Amiga compatibility, descent performance and an affordable price. The FleaFPGA Ohm provided an Amiga more capable than an Amiga 500 or MiniMig for $45 U.S. and it was not even mass produced. A mass produced product could be cheaper than a Raspberry Pi.
I mentioned J-Core earlier in this thread which is open hardware SuperH.
SuperH wiki Quote:
"Extremely low ASIC fabrication costs now that the patents are expiring (around US$0.03 for a dual-core J2 core on TSMC's 180 nm process)
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SuperH
A J2 core is the rough equivalent of a SuperH SH-2 core. It is about 50,000 gates which at 3 transistors per gate would be about 150,000 transistors (an ARM2 core was about 30,000 transistors). A 68000 was about 40,000 transistors. The Amiga AGA chipset was about 80,000 transistors and ECS about 60,000 transistors. Perhaps the original Amiga logic would use $.02 of silicon in a mass produced ASIC today. The logic of a 68060 with AGA may be $.51 using the same ratio. The kind of mass production in the link is made possible with unit quantities for embedded use and does not include development costs but these become reasonable when spread out over multiple mass produced products, especially for embedded use as exemplified by the J-Core project. The Amiga market is likely not large enough for mass production but embedded business partners may make it affordable. Then again, we can see how Amiga business partners get along and how some have their heads in the sand consumed by protecting their precious. Only Amiga makes it impossible.
Last edited by matthey on 22-Apr-2021 at 11:28 PM.
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