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Trixie 
Re: An abundance of AmigaOS
Posted on 26-Oct-2013 13:36:24
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As far as I understand Cyrus is even smaller then Nemo.

Is it? I got the impression from Trevor's AmiWest speech that A-EON in the end ditched the prototyped smaller board because the cost would be roughly the same as for the big board. So I expect the Cyrus to be full ATX just like Nemo (a fact that makes me cry because I really got in love with the small form-factor of my SamFlex).

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Re: An abundance of AmigaOS
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As I did read somewhere in a thread Gallium is not for very low end GFX cards

r300 and upwards, so 9xxx series are off limits, however on aros radeon cards are anyway disencouraged as 3d hardware support is apparently worse or nonexistant (?). instead nvidia cards are the ones to get. someone with actual experience, please correct me where im wrong... therefore i wonder how does os4 gallium development actually going to be of advantage for radeon(hd) users at all.

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Re: An abundance of AmigaOS
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From my understanding the Radeon 9800 are the best you can fit in older A1XE and Pegasos 2 motherboards so that's what most of us with those machines are going to use until we upgrade the motherboard.

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Re: An abundance of AmigaOS
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CORRECTION TO MYSELF:
http://hdrlab.org.nz/projects/amiga-os-4-projects/radeonhd-driver/radeonhd-card-recommendations-for-amigaos-4-x/

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Re: An abundance of AmigaOS
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@delshay

[quote] however on aros radeon cards are anyway disencouraged as 3d hardware support is apparently worse or nonexistant (?).


Yeah, but thats aros.

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Re: An abundance of AmigaOS
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@Signal

i think this was about noveau drivers support, which is not exclusively aros related afaik. again thats just an uneducated guess on my part.

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sundown 
Re: An abundance of AmigaOS
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@Trixie

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I got the impression from Trevor's AmiWest speech that A-EON in the end ditched the prototyped smaller board because the cost would be roughly the same as for the big board.

Trevor had a proto Cyrus bd to look at, wasn't full ATX, about the same size as the SAM440. It was smaller then my x1000 bd, so you just might get your wish.

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Re: An abundance of AmigaOS
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Trevor had a proto Cyrus bd to look at, wasn't full ATX, about the same size as the SAM440. It was smaller then my x1000 bd, so you just might get your wish.

yeah, but wasn't that the earlier micro-ATX board they decided not to pursue? i was under the impression that the production cyrus plus boards would be the full ATX form factor.

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Re: An abundance of AmigaOS
Posted on 27-Oct-2013 0:23:07
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@sundown

There will be only one size, same size for all CPU's, they dropped the smaller size, as it did not cut costs.

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Re: An abundance of AmigaOS
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@eliyahu

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yeah, but wasn't that the earlier micro-ATX board they decided not to pursue?

Ah, I should have asked.

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Re: An abundance of AmigaOS
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There will be only one size, same size for all CPU's, they dropped the smaller size, as it did not cut costs.


Well as far as I understand Cyrus has less slots (DDR3 but not 4,
less PCI or PCI-E x1) and no audio, so its kind of less complex.

Even smaller board would cost the same, benefit would be a form factor.

While normal ATX board is not way too big, choice of case
has made Amiga X1000 has enormous size - dread look of monolith
but yet space consuming.

Also smaller board would e.g. fit Lorianos X500 case.

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Re: An abundance of AmigaOS
Posted on 27-Oct-2013 11:34:19
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@vox

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While normal ATX board is not way too big, choice of case has made Amiga X1000 has enormous size - dread look of monolith

Yeah. Call me an aesthetic prick (because I am an aesthetic prick ) but it was the size, not the cost that kept me from buying the X1000. I already have one full-size PC tower at my desk, and I don't really want my room to look like a server station.

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Re: An abundance of AmigaOS
Posted on 27-Oct-2013 12:16:40
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@Trixie

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I already have one full-size PC tower at my desk


I have mine under the desk. That leaves more room for other stuff (printer, monitor, keyboard, piles of miscellaneous junk, etc.) on top of the desk .

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Re: An abundance of AmigaOS
Posted on 27-Oct-2013 12:38:06
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@salass00

My PC is under the desk too, so I can't put any other tower there because there'd be no legroom left The desk is hopelessy occupied and surrounded by various other computer and audio equipment so there goes my need for a small case. (And no, there's no way I could get a mini PC and get rid of the tower: I have three DSP cards in there to use in my studio so the tower must stay.)

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Re: An abundance of AmigaOS
Posted on 27-Oct-2013 14:34:29
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@Trixie

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And I don't really want my room to look like a server station.


The X1000 looks more like gaming PC, often fitted with water cooler and pump in drive bays or in the top of tower, for a ultra silent system.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xx1ykBypak8
http://cdn.overclock.net/f/f2/f2b5303f_FD-CA-ARC-BL_cooling.jpeg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfbDLQa6onA

Most servers are rack mounted box's.

http://www.dell.com/us/business/p/poweredge-rack-servers

What we think of when we think of servers is computer whit lots hard-drives, like the Dell PowerEdge VRTX, 5.12" drive bays like on X1000 is not that common on servers anymore, also servers have redundancy on PSU's often a twin setup, in case one brakes, also on servers you don't need to open it up, the drives can be added and removed from the front side.

http://www.dell.com/us/business/p/shared-infrastructure-platforms

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Re: An abundance of AmigaOS
Posted on 27-Oct-2013 15:07:50
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@Trixie

Yes lately I have looked at the smaller cube cabinets, as they look really space efficient, but this are MiniITX, so the AmigaONE-XE or the AmigaONE-X1000 can't fit, if small it might fit in TV bench.

If you really, have space problem you might consider a KVM extender cable, just put computer in different rom.



A software solution to the problem might be VNC.

VNC the nice thing about VNC, is that you virtually have no problems whit Keyboard and mouse, and you can move the screen of computer you are connected to in its window, it's nice when you have duel screen setup, the problem is the slow video output, it's useless for gaming.

KVM extenders are fast, but might have issues, like your gaming mouse might not work whit it, you need an extra cable, it's not ideal for multi monitor setups, but guess you can just buy an extra pair, eats yet another power plug.

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Re: An abundance of AmigaOS
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@Thread

FUSE and NTFS for AmigaOS

Nice!

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Re: An abundance of AmigaOS
Posted on 11-Feb-2014 16:55:15
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@pavlor

More ports of MorphOS software. :banana:

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pavlor 
Re: An abundance of AmigaOS
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@IntuitionAmiga

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More ports of MorphOS software.


Best of both worlds.

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Re: An abundance of AmigaOS
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@pavlor

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FUSE and NTFS for AmigaOS

Nice!


I'm afraid that when I hear one more whining about the abundance of Linux related posts ... I will have to throw up

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