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Re: AmigaOS4 for Classic Amiga will ship November 30 Posted on 22-Oct-2007 9:09:59
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Rogue has in the past jumped up and down explaining how he does not speak for Hyperion, so either (a) there is a rather significant change, or (b) Hyperion announced absolutely zip so far. |
I was asked by the Hyperion management (officially) to ask someone from our beta list (officially) to announce the classic version (officially) on the Amiwest show.
I hope you got it this time. _________________ Seriously, if you want to contact me do not bother sending me a PM here. Write me a mail
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Re: AmigaOS4 for Classic Amiga will ship November 30 Posted on 22-Oct-2007 9:11:43
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Just so we are 100% clear on this, you know.... |
"We"? It's not like I believe you had any interest in either the news item or the product, I rather believe that your only reason for posting at all is urinating up someone's leg. _________________ Seriously, if you want to contact me do not bother sending me a PM here. Write me a mail
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Re: AmigaOS4 for Classic Amiga will ship November 30 Posted on 22-Oct-2007 9:17:21
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damn... all other pci solutions are not as good as the g-rex approach... |
If you don't get any sort of documentation, there is little you can do. Sure, we could go and try to reverse-engineer the thing, but that takes time, and I am sure some people would cry wolf about "IP-Theft" or something like that.
It is extremely easy to support another PCI solution, but we're not likely to try without the required documentation. _________________ Seriously, if you want to contact me do not bother sending me a PM here. Write me a mail
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Re: AmigaOS4 for Classic Amiga will ship November 30 Posted on 22-Oct-2007 9:33:03
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| Better late than never. Wonderful achievement after 6 years, congrats guys your da best. |
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Re: AmigaOS4 for Classic Amiga will ship November 30 Posted on 22-Oct-2007 9:50:51
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| @AmiDog: do you know if cards which use prism2.device works?
And what is the reason that 3c589 doesn't work? |
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Re: AmigaOS4 for Classic Amiga will ship November 30 Posted on 22-Oct-2007 9:52:23
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| @Rogue
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"We"? It's not like I believe you had any interest in either the news item or the product, I rather believe that your only reason for posting at all is urinating up someone's leg. |
Wow! What a powerful and evocative image! _________________ La fortuna è cieca. La sfiga ci vede benissimo.
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Re: AmigaOS4 for Classic Amiga will ship November 30 Posted on 22-Oct-2007 10:17:05
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It is extremely easy to support another PCI solution, but we're not likely to try without the required documentation. |
that mean hyperion have signed the NDA from ELBOX for the mediator documentation. Thats great.
Thanks a lot for all involved on the AOS4 for classic and for new PPC hardware.Last edited by Mrodfr on 22-Oct-2007 at 10:19 AM.
_________________ BTW, what you have done for the amiga today ????
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Re: AmigaOS4 for Classic Amiga will ship November 30 Posted on 22-Oct-2007 12:18:39
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| @thread
There are as many opinions as there are people who post.
**However**....
I believe post #101 says it best. Before any of you are tempted to post ANYTHING else derogatory on this thread, I politely request you to go back and re-read Rogue's post.
If you have a problem with that, PM me. This is a 'News' thread, if you want to parry and thrust about something else, go start your own darn thread on the Forums.
I am drawing the line here __________________________________ Thank you in advance for your cooperation. Kind regards, Yo. _________________ ¤¤ Official Hyperion Zealot ¤¤
(No, I didn't type that with a straight face.)
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Re: AmigaOS4 for Classic Amiga will ship November 30 Posted on 22-Oct-2007 12:26:52
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I hope you got it this time. |
Yes, I got it quite clearly that (officially) Hyperion, the company, is saying bugger all.
Come on, Evert travels to Italy to show off an empty box, but when it comes to actually promising delivery, he cannot be bothered to pick up a phone, create a pre-recorded message, or send an email himself? Instead, he asks you to ask someone else to make an "announcement".
Tell me honestly that you wouldn't be suspicious of such behaviour if it was done by, say, AI or Genesi. "Plausible deniability".
But hey, that's all easily solved --- let's see the great news proudly displayed on the company website, and it will be clear that all is indeed above board, that the announcement is indeed a genuine Hyperion announcement, and that the company has indeed committed itself to delivering this product at last. Wouldn't that be so much easier than getting all worked up over those evil conspiracy theorists who have the audacity to think that a Hyperion announcement should come from Hyperion first hand, not third hand?Last edited by umisef on 22-Oct-2007 at 12:34 PM. Last edited by umisef on 22-Oct-2007 at 12:34 PM.
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Re: AmigaOS4 for Classic Amiga will ship November 30 Posted on 22-Oct-2007 12:48:55
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| In case there was ANY confusion, I am referring to THIS post as #101
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Rogue wrote: I was asked by the Hyperion management (officially) to ask someone from our beta list (officially) to announce the classic version (officially) on the Amiwest show. |
_________________ ¤¤ Official Hyperion Zealot ¤¤
(No, I didn't type that with a straight face.)
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Re: AmigaOS4 for Classic Amiga will ship November 30 Posted on 22-Oct-2007 12:49:31
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| I cant be bothered to read the whole thread - but I noticed yet again that the year is not specified...
Who wants to bet a second lawsuit will block this? Come on, if AI are so against it then surely thats what they would do!? |
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Re: AmigaOS4 for Classic Amiga will ship November 30 Posted on 22-Oct-2007 13:14:47
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| This new OS 4.0 will works in Amiga Classic with 68K and WinUAE? or only for Amiga PPC? It is for Amigas or UAE will be a great improvement for us.
Thank you for this news. |
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Re: AmigaOS4 for Classic Amiga will ship November 30 Posted on 22-Oct-2007 13:17:55
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| @Templario PPC only naturally. _________________ AmigaOne X1000 1,8 Ghz/2 GB Ram + Radeon 6670 2 GB + AmigaOS4.1 A4000T CyberstormPPC 604e-200Mhz/060/128MB+CybervisionPPC 8MB + AmigaOS4 and anymore other Amigas...
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Re: AmigaOS4 for Classic Amiga will ship November 30 Posted on 22-Oct-2007 14:08:33
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| Thanks Hyperion for the great work. Lets see if I can find any of my used PPC accelerators to sell. _________________ Mr. Hardware Computers
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Re: AmigaOS4 for Classic Amiga will ship November 30 Posted on 22-Oct-2007 14:51:38
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Yes, I got it quite clearly that (officially) Hyperion, the company, is saying bugger all. |
Rogue is doing the usual "question dodging", so don't expect a straight answer. Hyperion have not announced aos4 for amigas with ppc cards. Not sure why people are blindly ignoring this important fact. |
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Re: AmigaOS4 for Classic Amiga will ship November 30 Posted on 22-Oct-2007 15:38:39
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| The best news this year. I will be the luckies guy too see more os4 users :)
Thanks Hyperion Last edited by Kicko on 22-Oct-2007 at 03:39 PM.
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Re: AmigaOS4 for Classic Amiga will ship November 30 Posted on 22-Oct-2007 16:26:14
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| Will indeed be nice with some more developers. |
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Re: AmigaOS4 for Classic Amiga will ship November 30 Posted on 22-Oct-2007 16:31:42
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Come on, Evert travels to Italy to show off an empty box, but when it comes to actually promising delivery, he cannot be bothered to pick up a phone, create a pre-recorded message, or send an email himself? Instead, he asks you to ask someone else to make an "announcement". |
So? I don't actually get your point, and clearly, how things work internally at Hyperion do not see to bother anybody but you.
Nor is it anybody's business but Hyperion's.
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Tell me honestly that you wouldn't be suspicious of such behaviour if it was done by, say, AI or Genesi. "Plausible deniability". |
Honestly, I don't have any idea what you are talking about. I can only see you making up conspiracy theories. Plainly, I wouldn't give a second thought to anything that AI or Genesi might announce, through whatever channel, because I am not interested in any of their products, however, I am also not interested in urinating up their legs so I don't go posting on MorphOS sites about it.
Contrary to other people I know.
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But hey, that's all easily solved --- let's see the great news proudly displayed on the company website, and it will be clear that all is indeed above board, that the announcement is indeed a genuine Hyperion announcement, and that the company has indeed committed itself to delivering this product at last. Wouldn't that be so much easier than getting all worked up over those evil conspiracy theorists who have the audacity to think that a Hyperion announcement should come from Hyperion first hand, not third hand? |
Well, it is quite easy: take it, or don't. I care not. Most people seem to be content as it is now, and yes, I suppose there will be an appropriate press release on the web site, but honestly, who (besides you) cares? It's easy to verify anyway, everybody will know on November 30th. Until that time, make of it what you would like.
Other than that, see my previous post (#101) _________________ Seriously, if you want to contact me do not bother sending me a PM here. Write me a mail
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Re: AmigaOS4 for Classic Amiga will ship November 30 Posted on 22-Oct-2007 16:33:11
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I cant be bothered to read the whole thread - but I noticed yet again that the year is not specified... |
The year in question is 2007. And of course, to keep Bernie happy, I don't speak for Hyperion so this number is totally unofficial. I am quite sure that Bill or Steven would have mentioned a year had they known it was so bothersome. _________________ Seriously, if you want to contact me do not bother sending me a PM here. Write me a mail
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Re: AmigaOS4 for Classic Amiga will ship November 30 Posted on 22-Oct-2007 16:40:34
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Rogue is doing the usual "question dodging", so don't expect a straight answer. |
I am dodging answers not questions. Subtle difference.
What part of my statement in comment #101 did you not understand? I admit that I am not a native English speaker, so if you want me to explain any specific part, please let me know so I can try and explain it maybe in easier words.
Food for thought: Since I also maintain Hyperion's web site, maybe everything you read there is something I made up myself? _________________ Seriously, if you want to contact me do not bother sending me a PM here. Write me a mail
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