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Miscellaneous News   Miscellaneous News : Twenty-Five Years of Development
   posted by Rogue on 4-Aug-2010 19:05:59 (28517 reads)
As a celebration of the 25th anniversary of the Amiga computer, Hyperion Entertainment has made a video using the Gource CVS visualization software showing a time-compressed version of 25 years of Amiga development, from the early days of AmigaOS 1.0 to the present. Personal commentary added by one of the current core full-time AmigaOS developers, Hans-Joerg Frieden (a.k.a. "Rogue")

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Re: Twenty-Five Years of Development
Posted on 6-Aug-2010 17:46:59
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Direct link to Flash version on YouTube. And the same for the eLAP video. So people with HTML5 video support can watch them if they want, without diging the page source, like i did.


Or just use ClipDown maybe?

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And if they wanted to emphasize on AmigaOS development, there is no room for clones?


Indeed, why would you give free publicity to a clone in competition with your commercial product? Especially when the legality of the clone is questionable.

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Re: Twenty-Five Years of Development
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@AmigaHeretic

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Re: Twenty-Five Years of Development
Posted on 6-Aug-2010 18:16:09
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When will the silly FUD stop.

The legality of any of the Amiga OSs are not in question.

Hyperion and Amiga Inc is done.

MOS and Amiga Inc or Hyperion isn't contending eachother anymore despite earlier mud slinging (ages ago!)

AROS isn't disputed in court by anyone.

Rogue, I must say I admire your stamina for this. But you've been at this a lot longer than I :)

I read these forums each day, aw, a.org, aros-exec. And somethimes morphZone too. And all this silly red blue stuff, ppc vs x86 stuff. What ever happened with live and let live or what ever it's called.

Life is too short :)


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Re: Twenty-Five Years of Development
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What ever happened with live and let live or what ever it's called.

Beats me but you can see our good friend AmigaHeretic doing his best to "inform" the masses on Slashdot now:
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by AmigaHeretic (991368) writes: on Friday August 06, @02:32PM (#33165808)

These guys are just trying to re-write history. They don't even have a right to use the name Amiga. Somehow they got an agreement from these other crooks to use the name "Amigaos". They have no legal right to call anything an Amiga.

Even the hardware companies that are making "PPC" hardware have no license to use the word "Amiga". All the machines are "AmigaOne" which is a trademark from a company named Eyetech in 2001 and not related to "Amiga" at all.

Nothing Amiga to see here people.


The point of the video is to show the Amiga source code changing from 1.x to 4.x yet somehow AmigaHeretic is confused. This kind of nitpicking on trademarks and stating this has nothing to do with Amiga is just insulting to everyone. This is the Amiga source code and there is no arguing that this is the heart (i.e. operating system) of the Amiga.

How in the world are we supposed to get along with FUD like the above is being spread about at every opportunity?


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Re: Twenty-Five Years of Development
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How in the world are we supposed to get along with FUD like the above is being spread about at every opportunity?


We don't even need to get along, we just need to learn to ignore each other. Plainly, I don't care about anything else but AmigaOS, so I don't go reading any news items that aren't about it. Nor do I go to specific websites.

However, I have the feeling that these deluded crusaders don't want to get along anyway. Since there is nothing else they can take credit for, they try to get noticed by FUD like this.

Sad, really sad.


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And amigaheretic is already at it with his trolling at slashdot... I nearly hope hyperion sues his ass for spreading lies and fud.

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I nearly hope hyperion sues his ass for spreading lies and fud.


Care to point out where I lied?

As far as getting sued, I guess we'll see who sues who, now that a certain somebody copyrighted and registered AmigaOS, and both BoingBall and Boing Ball with checkered ball logo. :)

Should show up here soon :)

http://tinyurl.com/32mbflw

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Re: Twenty-Five Years of Development
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The boing ball is already a registered trademark, by Amiga Inc.

http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4008:5dri7e.11.6

It is also part of the trademark for "powered by Amiga"

http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4008:5dri7e.11.13

And since Amiga is registered for the purpose of

"computer operating software and computer operating systems for use in wired and wireless devices for a wide range of audio-visual and multimedia technologies, including cellular and mobile telecommunications, smart phones, PDAs, web-based servers, television entertainment, entertainment, games and gaming consoles, personal computing, word processing, Internet applications including web browsing, calculators and related devices and technologies"

I fail to see how anyone could be granted the right to use 'AmigaOS' to sell anything related to operating systems. But maybe you can explain the details of trademark law to the rest of us.

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Do a search for "Amiga" there are two companies that have Live trademarks on the term "Amiga" both for computer systems...

So I think AmigaOS would go through easy.


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@all who have read the thread topic but seem unable to understand what it refers to:

There is already a thread with some nice links for you concerning trademarks.
Perhaps you could add your thoughts over here instead.
Thank you.

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Not sure why this has devolved into some weird argument, but being the geek I am, I really liked the video. It was really cool to see the OS grow and expand over time. I hope it continues to do so for a long time to come.

Thanks for the vid.

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An interesting little marketing weapon you have there...


And, for the time being, a slashdotted web/mail server

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@olsen

Just got on the Hyperion Entertainment website without a hitch.


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@AmigaHeretic

I'm amazed to see that you can be such a selective reader that you ignore evidence presented to you that doesn't fit with your "theory" and instead steadfastly continue to defend your point... While ignorance is an admirable state of mind because it equals bliss, it still doesn't mean you are right.

And finally, when things don't match, you change your tune to another hate-fill song. Seriously, I pity you.


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@AmigaHeretic

Such a trouble maker aren't you little man. Really got nothing better to do than troll?!

Rude!


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@AmigaHeretic

"As far as getting sued, I guess we'll see who sues who, now that a certain somebody copyrighted and registered AmigaOS, and both BoingBall and Boing Ball with checkered ball logo. :)"

The bbrv April joke?
http://bbrv.blogspot.com/2010/04/finally.html


LOL!


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I like this video but it is too few
I'd like to see all Release Notes distribuited as it happened at 3.5+ time, why you don't include them with OS4? I loved to read them...

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Please. Just. Stop.

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Cant we just ban this guy now?? It should be pretty damn clear now that he is trying his hardest to troll.

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