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Amigaworld.net News   Amigaworld.net News : Follow-up from Garry Hare
   posted by DaveyD on 22-Mar-2005 0:15:42 (32184 reads)
As many of you know I don't spend much time on public boards. But when I woke up to full e-mail, jammed cell messages and many of my people pointing me to specific posts, I made an exception and have now spent several hours reading your comments and speculation. I certainly didn't mean to set all this off. My motivation in agreeing to the IRC was clearly my insanity - hopefully temporary. One disadvantage to this means of communication is it does not allow for quick follow-up questions. And, as an aside, the bot cut off some of my best and most controversial comments. But I guess the ones that got through filled that bill.

I would like to "clarify" a couple items. Please appreciate that I cannot and will not violate confidentiality, with anyone. I hope that I am not doing so now.

1. Is Amiga, Inc. planning to kill off AmigaOS 4.0?

No, no, no and NO!

2. Does Hyperion (I refer to AmigaOne Partners) have the right to extend OS 4.0 to say 4.1?

Yes they do. In fact, for you conspiracy theorists, that is the wrong question. Disclosing details of exactly what this means is confidential. Bottom line - they do have that right and I hope this comment doesn't violate our NDA.

3. Will they (extend that is)?

That is a business decision. I would assume If AmigaOne Partners find the market, we all hope to see, this decision is obvious.

4. Do I have AmigaOS 4.0, do I have an Amiga computer, do I know how to turn it on? And, if I have it, what do I think of it?

Yes I have OS 4 running on an Amiga and elsewhere (that ought to start a new thread). As an aside it was pretty difficult for us to get delivery in the US., even after pre-paying. I have brought this issue to Eyetech. I turned it on all by myself and am currently figuring out how to turn it off.

I think Hyperion's work is very impressive. Particularly so when you consider the limited resources available the Frieden bothers, and many other developers, have to work with. As an aside, the Frieden brothers are very talented and yes I like them. I release them from any confidentiality if they wish to comment on me.

And yes, AmigaOS 4 has utility in markets beyond the desktop.

5. Will AmigaAnywhere be on OS 4.0, when, who pays?

We hope 1.5 and future versions will be. It makes sense to me. Remember, we released 1.5 last week. Hyperion is pretty busy getting 4.0 to all of you. If Hyperion wants it, it will be there. And we do the work. We pay and do the work for all AA enabled devices and to be honest we have a minimum installed threshold before proceeding. This minimum does not apply to AmigaOne and AmigaOS 4.0. It may make sense to wait for next version.

6. What is the best thing any of you can do to support AmigaOS 4.0?

Go buy and AmigaOne and AmigaOS 4.0. If everyone concerned about extensions and the like either has or is buying the AmigaOne, it goes a long way toward those extensions.

7. Does Fleecy still work for Amiga?

He certainly does. In fact, he better be working right now. I make the staffing decisions.

8. What's up with the web site, its design, etc.?

We had to have one aspect of the site ready for a specific reason last week. I suggested the IRC be next Sunday. David pointed out that was Easter (good point). We moved the IRC forward, perhaps we should have moved it back. Knowing that many of you would be our first audience, we added several sections. Like all sites, amiga.com is a living project. It will change very frequently. In the near term daily. Titles are being added all the time, and the like. Our immediate focus is ease of use.

I did read many of your comments. I agree with some, disagree with others. We will make many changes ( a couple based on your specific feedback) but the site will focus on consumer marketing, most significantly the storefront and front page. As all of our developers know, the devnet portion is being designed with their input.

9. What's with all this AmigaAnywhere talk? Why should anyone care?

For those of you only interested in the desktop, skip this. AmigaAnywhere is not what it used to be (DE). This, and future versions, not only extend the market but as I said, literally change what removable media is and does. It is a big deal to us and some in the industry. Some people really like this whole ease-of-use, cross device, scale anywhere solution. Some of you see it as some sort of distraction. It is not. BTW, I did not mention Capacity Networks in my comments. We are not using them in the solutions we're working one. We very much like what they do. We no longer own them.

10. Would I please disclose our strategy, features lists, partners, plans and the like?

No.

11. Will I be doing another "interview" anytime soon?

I refer you to my "Temporary Insanity" comment above. But if AW asks and it is around a product release, or other major development, I will do so. Other than this note, I won't be on public boards.

12. Finally, several comment like this, "What makes you think you're qualified to be CEO of Amiga or most anywhere else? I don't think you're up to the job."

Believe me, there are numerous days when I agree with you.

My best to all of you. Don't panic things are going pretty good. Robots was good, especially if you are a kid.

Garry
    

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Re: Follow-up from Garry Hare
Posted on 23-Mar-2005 12:36:15
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Re: Follow-up from Garry Hare
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Just popping in to say thanks to Garry.

I've got (here I need to say that I am in no way working for or with anything or anyone associated with Garry as far as I am able to conceive in even my wildest imaginings) some “writing/expanding upon” to do before I come back full force and even before that writing I have CD printing and vehicle registering to complete, but let me say this: There are a few here who still don't get it. Specifically that AmigaOS is an existing product, and 4.0/5.x/whatever.whatever are simply versions of that existing product—a product the development of which is already under contract. So, please relax. OK?


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Re: Follow-up from Garry Hare
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Sorry posted in the worng thread.

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Re: Follow-up from Garry Hare
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That isn't what I meant, I want you to identify where you think ( paraphrasing here on way to lunch ) such unreasonable speculation occurred and where you think I or others have been unreasonably dogmatic.

Personally I think everything is up for debate, discussion and speculation and it seems to me those that have a problem with this have not read the discussion threads properly.

Plus no one has yet asked them to break the assertion in no. 10, merely speculated on what the rest of the evidence means and where, if the speculation is accurate, it could do damage.

My point is that it willl be uninformed debate, discussion and speculation.

A lot of fun maybe, perhaps not even damaging though some may take speculation as fact, but perhaps not that useful. Garry seemed to regret having said anything so I will speculate that the "community appearences" of Amiga Inc will disappear entirely. Can you blame them?


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Im not that bothered if they do dissapear, and I seriously doubt a bit of speculation and discussion would put them off if they were actually keen on engagement. If it puts them off then respect--

Dave.

 
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Re: Follow-up from Garry Hare
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I think number 11 illustrates Garry's attitude to 'engagement'.

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11 Will I be doing another "interview" anytime soon?

I refer you to my "Temporary Insanity" comment above. But if AW asks and it is around a product release, or other major development, I will do so. Other than this note, I won't be on public boards.

It would appear he sees no value in it and I don't blame him.


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Precisely, now follow the conditional and function above to see how I responded to that statement of Garrys.

 
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Re: Follow-up from Garry Hare
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Wiffy

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Being one of those that have drawn negative inferences ( that I stand by ) and whom hopes to apply enough pressure to get Amiga Inc to either change their mind or ensure that they do not go down the road that I think would have so many negative effects perhaps I should take umbrage.
while I haven't read all your posts, what you seem to be doing is DISCUSSING.
that's not "whining"

And, frankly I wasn't even thinking of you. so don't get all sensative.

What these message boards are for is DISCUSSING.

Not for all the "Sky is Falling" reactions. And, since I actually was listening in in the IRC chat I saw AS SOON AS the formal "interview" was over that people started going nuts immediately. I find this very silly and counterproductive.

when I was a child my grandmother used to say that "Whining was unattractive". ya know what? She's right.

I already posted that having an IRC chat may not be the best way to Introduce and DISCUSS this information. I mean, if the goal is to transmit actual information. And I think that was everyone's intention. I want to encourage people to spend more time DISCUSSING and less or no time just being negative.

I'm looking forward to seeing how this "AA" thing develops. And how it affects the work already done by the parties involved.


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Precisely, now follow the conditional and function above to see how I responded to that statement of Garrys.

Sorry this is a general point, not specific. Even if the fact that Amiga Inc is disengaged is known, the reasons for it are speculation.

Speculation can be well reasoned but still wrong. Uninformed debate, discussion and speculation is entertaining, but of limted to no worth.


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Thanks, lots of good info. I will get AA for my AmigaOne when it is released.


@All
Quote:

Yes I have OS 4 running on an Amiga and elsewhere (that ought to start a new thread).


Gary mentioned something about a laptop, that would be very handy!
One of the Frieden's care to comment. :)

Cheers,
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I just have to say thank you Mr.Hare.
The thing you did was very brave and you've earned a big plus in my book, that's for sure.

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Yeah, I'd love a Amiga Notebook as well.


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