@hotrod

scrolling - probably no (try disable javascript to get better speed on some pages).
video playback - overlay support would certainly help, so yes.

Sorry, one more reason.

@pavlor

Ok but Overlay is what we got when streaming to MPlayer. Do you mean overlay within the browser window because that sounds like something that would collide with the current way of displaying graphics. And no, I'm no programmer :) .

@BSzili

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Maybe adding a Radeon HD card using the PCI-e to PCI adapter as a secondary card could work? I know it does in PowerMac G5s under Linux. I'll have to ask Hans about this.

I will be happy to buy a card even using a compatible PCI to PCI-E adapter. The limits may be the bus speed, but this at least this could give us the possibility to use the W3D Nova.

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@pavlor

We don't use overlay anymore, modern graphic cards don't have it.
we use composition video or yuv422 bitmaps support in modern graphic cards.

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@hotrod

Forget about overlay, overlay is restricted in many ways, its old obsolete tech.

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We don't use overlay anymore, modern graphic cards don't have it.

And that is exactly what we are speaking about. Some users can´t upgrade to "modern graphic cards" and must use Radeon 9250, where overlay is the best choice for video playback.

@Pavlor
>And that is exactly what we are speaking about. Some users can´t upgrade to "modern graphic cards" and must use Radeon 9250, where overlay is the best choice for video playback.

Well, it is of course a matter of needs, if your current Amiga fulfilled them then no need to upgrade if not then one day or another you'll have to buy a new Amiga or switch.

Kamelito

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@kamelit0

There simply is not yet low cost replacement for Pegasos2 or AmigaOne G4. Except GFX card, buying A1-500 or A1-1222 would be downgrade.

"3d notes might be cool visually.."

Agreed. But "Score" has two meanings.
To a musician, it's note entry and playback in a written music format, a "Score".
(And possibly printing, but I won't hold release for that)

But in game mode it's much closer to "Guitar Hero" or the like.. and then you're trying to beat the high "Score"..
:)

Seriously though, allowing the change of perspective, to allow the notes to slide towards the player in a 3D fashion, would certainly be a fair option when gaming.

As long as it portrays written music properly, and requires a real instrument for playback, it's "music practice" and not just playing a game.

That's the idea anyway.

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Am I right in thinking that with Score, you can plug in your electric guitar and maybe other instruments to play the game mode.

My friend had a similar product for the PC or one of the consoles a few year back. IIRC it used some custom USB device to plug the guitar in but I think there was some lag. Ultimately he was disappointed with the product because this one flaw spoiled an otherwise good product.

If score offers this option then I'd like to let him try it out on my X1000 to see what he thinks of it. Not that I'd expect him to buy into OS4 but it could be good for feedback from someone who I know is interested in this kind of software.

I really would like to have this for my Sam 440ep Flex.

1. UBoot update would be needed to get Radeon HD 77XX work

2. Driver for Radeon HD 5XXX or 6XXX

I don't know wich one is more likely to happen :(

@Pavlor,

Depends on the area, it will only be a downgrade on the CPU front but with better memory bandwidth, I'm not sure if it is an issue and you can hope that one day you'll get multicore which will help I guess . If you're into graphics then it won't be a downgrade. Nowadays GPU are doing the dirty work not the CPU, look at the poor CPU the PS4 has and what it can achieve.

Kamelito

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Which are the main differences between Warp3D and Warp3D Nova?

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@Massi

Check the feature list of the news item. Warp3D is a fixed function pipeline, Nova is a programmable: it runs shader programs on the GPU. Pretty much the rest of the world already uses shader technologies and that's one reason we haven't been able to port new (say, less than decade old :) ) 3D games.

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Which are the main differences between Warp3D and Warp3D Nova?

Warp3D's feature set is stuck in the Voodoo 3 era, Warp3D Nova's isn't.

@Mr_Capehill

Thanks.
If I understand well Nova is usable directly or through OpenGL ES 2.0 (same as the old Warp3D + MiniGL).

And yes shaders are programs executed on the GPU rather than the CPU.

It seems I have to refresh my (basic) 3D programming skills, I am actually stuck when the rendering was 100% software cpu based.

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@Rob

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Warp3D's feature set is stuck in the Voodoo 3 era, Warp3D Nova's isn't.

Sorry but it says nothing from a developer perspective.

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I really would like to have this for my Sam 440ep Flex. 1. UBoot update would be needed to get Radeon HD 77XX work 2. Driver for Radeon HD 5XXX or 6XXX I don't know wich one is more likely to happen :(

I'm in this category too.

Hans, can you confirm that a driver for an HD 5xxx or HD 6xxx would be a viable solution for this? I would like to see how involved it will be to work on it.

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Hans, can you confirm that a driver for an HD 5xxx or HD 6xxx would be a viable solution for this? I would like to see how involved it will be to work on it.

Yes, an HD 5xxx/6xxx driver would be a viable solution. How much work is it? I can't give you a "x weeks" type figure, but it would be a lot of work; months worth at least. IMHO, the shader compiler would be the hardest and most time consuming part.

Hans

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