I think it is toooo much (even for me that earn a lot for current conditions in current country)... I think the price of 550- 860 € would be acceptable. Why not search for devs in China?

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Few days ago I upgraded my pc (150€) to 850€ beast machine: i7, 16gb ram, 250gb ssd hd, ge force gtx 6600 ti, new motherboard and ups... So whole machine would be 1400€ (of calculate a 24" monitor, 2tb hd, good keyboard & mouse... This is a killer machine for my video production... Now imagine what we can get for 2500€!!!

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Can you imagine the people that gave you the Sam would feel now....
Think about it for 5 sec

@Eder : thanks, exactly what I was thinking...

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Checking options from that given link to Amikit about X1000, what is the use of that "Serial Debug Port"?

Is it any use for a normal use, or is it useful just for developers of X1000 who can use it for debugging X1000?


@Eder

I was planning to donate to DJ Nick on that Sam, but when i was about to do so, the money had been gathered already, so I didnt.

But my plan for donation was based upon him having proven track record of doing things, therefore that comment of his woudnt really had affected anything on my side.

But I do see your point. But maybe hes life situation have changed dramatically since then.

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I think the same

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@djnick

ooooooops...

so, why don't you paid the sam by yourself?

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I think this is a mistake.. I'm sure he need the Pc for his work.. And buying breath and... milk
Not only for fun . Think about it 5 sec

@netrot

I'm sure people that don't earn that much have donated some money to djnick. And I'm sure they still expect some cool AmigaOS theme and not some bashing about Amiga hardware/user or companies that enables Amigans to enjoy their hobby.

nexus

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Bashing??????
He is only saying " damn to much money for me "

Only the words he is using is.... Hmm not so lucky

X1000 cpu is quite rare, I belive that ther is no other computer that uses it.

China should be option, manufacturing some 10000 devices with low level spec shouldn't cost more than 50€ per device.

Though need to admit that aeon and acube devices are high quality products

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X1000 cpu is quite rare, I belive that ther is no other computer that uses it.

There are some server and military applications, but I don´t know any other desktop computer that uses PA6T.

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10000 devices

If you find only 1000 customers, then your loss will be 450000 EUR.

@Bugala

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Checking options from that given link to Amikit about X1000, what is the use of that "Serial Debug Port"? Is it any use for a normal use, or is it useful just for developers of X1000 who can use it for debugging X1000?

It is a standard serial port. It is usable via AmigaOS (was it serial.device or X1000serial.device cannot remember right now?) and Linux.
I actually used it on Linux and AmigaOS for connecting my old Garmin GPS. Worked like a charm (e.g. on Linux via GPSBabel). So I guess, you could use it with everything a serial port is normaly used with. As it is just a couple of Euros more, I would suggest to take it!

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Quote:

Checking options from that given link to Amikit about X1000, what is the use of that "Serial Debug Port"? Is it any use for a normal use, or is it useful just for developers of X1000 who can use it for debugging X1000?

It's a serial port, so you can do 'serial port things' with it (connect to dialup modem, run dnet etx etc) but in these moderns times it most useful for debugging stuff with.

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Now imagine what we can get for 2500€!!!

We? WE?? What do you mean by 'we'?

You got a mouse in your pocket?

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@djnick
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Few days ago I upgraded my pc (150€) to 850€ beast machine: i7, 16gb ram, 250gb ssd hd, ge force gtx 6600 ti, new motherboard and ups... So whole machine would be 1400€ (of calculate a 24" monitor, 2tb hd, good keyboard & mouse...This is a killer machine for my video production... Now imagine what we can get for 2500€!!!

So, let me get this straight.

You recently spent 850 EUR on an upgrade to a system, but were happy to accept a Sam paid for by members of the community on the understanding that you'd produce some original themes and artwork in return.

A system that you subsequently complained about at length and bemoaned the purchase of a graphics card for out of your own pocket.

A system that you've yet to meet your end of the bargain for obtaining.

A system that you've complained about the horrendous complexity of skinning, when another user has created about 20 themes without any similar histrionics. A user that produced work you claimed wasn't professional, when I might add, all I've seen you do so far is copy other people's artwork?

After all of this, you just drop in an off the cuff remark about how much you spent upgrading your PC for video work.

Congratulations. You must win troll of the year! I'm glad I wasn't one of the contributors to your freebie.

Now, if you have any integrity, you'll donate that system to someone that can actually produce something worth having with it. And by something, I mean software. Not some basic UI themes which while nice to have, aren't exactly first on any sensible priority list.

And as this post will probably be moderated, I might as well say it. How hard is it to put a colour coordinated wallpaper and window border/widget bitmap set together? I seem to recall having no difficulties re-skinning the default 4.1 theme to my own tastes, despite being chronically colourblind and having virtually no artistic talent at all. And that default 4.1 theme was rather better than the horrendous early OSX horizontal pinstripe clone of yours I saw posted around here not long ago.

Just saying.

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Karlos Wrote:

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So, let me get this straight. You recently spent 850 EUR on an upgrade to a system, but were happy to accept a Sam paid for by members of the community on the understanding that you'd produce some original themes and artwork in return. A system that you subsequently complained about at length and bemoaned the purchase of a graphics card for out of your own pocket. A system that you've yet to meet your end of the bargain for obtaining. A system that you've complained about the horrendous complexity of skinning, when another user has created about 20 themes without any similar histrionics. A user that produced work you claimed wasn't professional, when I might add, all I've seen you do so far is copy other people's artwork? After all of this, you just drop in an off the cuff remark about how much you spent upgrading your PC for video work. Congratulations. You must win troll of the year! I'm glad I wasn't one of the contributors to your freebie. Now, if you have any integrity, you'll donate that system to someone that can actually produce something worth having with it. And by something, I mean software. Not some basic UI themes which while nice to have, aren't exactly first on any sensible priority list. And as this post will probably be moderated, I might as well say it. How hard is it to put a colour coordinated wallpaper and window border/widget bitmap set together? I seem to recall having no difficulties re-skinning the default 4.1 theme to my own tastes, despite being chronically colourblind and having virtually no artistic talent at all. And that default 4.1 theme was rather better than the horrendous early OSX horizontal pinstripe clone of yours I saw posted around here not long ago. Just saying.

Amazing and to think I used to get the baws chewed off me from certain members and moderators round here for saying things that weren't even half as bad (or whatever the appropriate word may be) as that but just as truthful...

Strange place this internet thingy, if you're not one of the boys" and your face doesn't fit they hang you for saying the exact same things... but if you are they "+1" you and clap like sea lions... fecked up or what...

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On X1000 price: sadly it is what is, more then before, and it seems it will be last of it.
Hope next one will be cheaper, since its not even less likely I will be able to afford it when adding OS4, import taxes, P&P etc. Anyone needs a kidney?

And no, you cant really buy 12 PCs for price of X1000. But you can buy an high end Mac and high end PC, at least here. Maybe some more within EU or US.

X1000 Options are more RAM, more HDD, better gFX and yes serial debug cable that has practical use just for beta testers and if it won`t boot as well as printed manual. But it all adds even more to the price.

On DJ Nicks new PC: He did spent his own money (in my own eyes, that is an overkill spending on PC - speed up compared to how much it will be worth in lets say a year) to buy productivity PC he needs. Not a bounty money in any way. And it might even help fulfilling the audio/gfx goals for AmigaOS, since they will all be done on PC - and tested on AmigaOS machine. Again bounty was plain board with OS 4.1, so man already invested in building the system around it and did not upgrade PC in couple of years (for PCs thats ... quite long).

Currently SAM 460 with 2D RadeonHD drivers can`t do much. And since he has 4000 series card, waiting for 3D will be longer - until OS 4.2 as well all know 3D drivers are not yet planned for these. Then hope some presentational and inspirational works, as well as end of his bounty goals, and even more coming. But I will let him speak, that is just my guess based on situation.

On Serbias situation: 1st january 2014 will bring down all trade barriers with EU, eliminating import taxes that add more to cost then to people buying Acube and A-Eon products in EU. That is what I am waiting for, as well as PayPal should be finally introduced.

Hope personally with those two combined, will be able to aid bounties, buy more software and finally newer AmigaNG system - I can only envy DJ Nick SAM 460 now.

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