• Flex-ATX form factor motherboard based on the Freescale MPC8349E SoC. (400MHz to 667MHz depending on requirements and price target)
  
• 1 (one) DDR2 DIMM slot expandable to 1GB using unregistered DIMMs.
  
• 1 (one) 66MHz PCI slot for use with readily available graphics cards.
  
• 2 (two) 33MHz  PCI slots for additional expansion.
  
• 2 (two) 10/100/1Gb Ethernet Ports.
  
• 4 (four) Hi Speed USB ports.
  
• 2 (two) serial ports.
  
• 4 (four) SATA ports provided by a Silicon Image Sil3114 controller.
  
• Onboard sound provided by a C-Media CMI8738.
  
• Socketed EEPROM for U-Boot firmware.
  
• Atmel ATC2408A serial EEPROM (1kb of non-volatile storage)
  
• Dallas DS1339 RTC with battery holder.
  
• Standard ATX power supply connector.

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Poster: nubechecorre Date: 30-Apr-2007 14:28:49 The only thing to do to help Hyperion to develop Amiga os 4.0 now and in the future and to prevent the failure of AMIGA OS 4.0 as we know it today is not to buy this hardware ( that's my opinion and i hope it is also yours )

You can't be serious... Their contract has been canceled and they have no rights to continue to develop any version of Amiga OS nor to distribute it according to the court papers.

It's okay that is your opinion, but it surely isn't mine. I say bring on the machines. You've got one sale for the low end (just to get in the door) and maybe the higher end too...

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Poster: ChrisH Date: 30-Apr-2007 15:15:21 @Nihilvor I think the suggestion is to boycott Amiga Inc & ACK until the lawsuit with Hyperion is resolved, so as to not support Amiga Inc. Why not support them? Well, perhaps the fact that they've persistently refused all attempts at licensed h/w for OS4, after Eyetech/AmigaOne, while Hyperion have only ever tried to move OS4 forward? (The current ACK deal may be a red herring - we will have to see what happens.)

After seeing the court documents, I would be willing to bet that the reason Amiga withheld licenses was in direct response to Hyperion not turning over the OS code as outlined in the agreements/payments.

Hey that CPU is slower than my watch!

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@terminator3

I have no idea about US or Canadian laws, but in Europe (certainly in the UK) selling below a price recommended by the manufacturer (called MRRP here) is not only legal but common practice. The manufacturer of a tin of beans may set the MRRP at 30p, but if the supermarket decides to sell it to me for 10p that's their business.

You mention 'dumping', but that refers to the practice of selling goods below manufacturing cost in order to harm a competitor. That's highly illegal, but very different from selling below MRRP.

(oh, and on the Catweasel specifically - did you ever consider that it's produced by a German company and is thus originally priced in euros, so the high cost in the US is simply down to the US dollar currently being worth about the same as a used condom?)

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Edited: no need for this post to be here anymore...

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Hey that CPU is slower than my watch!

Hey! i want that watch Now

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Hmmm... why not take advantage of what PA Semi has to offer in PowerPC chips? I wonder how much lower the cost of their Electra evaluation board offering would be at mass production quantities??

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If anyone thinks that i shouldn't have posted the image, then say it and i'll remove it (unless some mod removes it first).

I didn't see it, what was it?

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If my memory serves me well (which rarely does) it was a bomb with a boing ball inside. Nothing utterly offensive, if at all

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@T_Bone


You're right pixie. It was that.
T_Bone, it was small bomb with a Boing Ball and a short fuse... that's the first thing that came to my mind when i thought about this whole situation with the lawsuit and everything.

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@ Zontrox

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If anyone thinks that i shouldn't have posted the image, then say it and i'll remove it (unless some mod removes it first).

Unless it is a violation of the TOS we are not going to remove it. Send the image to one of us and let us be the judge.

Just because someone does not like it is not the requirement for removal. Heaven knows I find a lot of material on this site that is not to my taste, but I leave it be.

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I'd agree with you, but then we'd both be wrong.

@ Zontrox

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I can 'remake it' if you want to take a look at it and send the link by PM, just in case.

Please do. I'd like to see why feathers were ruffled.

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I'd agree with you, but then we'd both be wrong.

There was nothing wrong with the 'boing bomb' at all.

Regarding the news item...odd that a 'system price' is given, yet doesn't mention RAM, video card, hard drive, even in relative specs such as 256MB RAM, 120GB 3.5" hard drive, etc..
Believe it when/if I see it.
If I DO see it, I might buy it, depending on the outcome of all the cloak and dagger insanity, what OS is included, etc.

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My question is this. Why are people calling for others to boycott ACK Controls?

Yes, probably a pointless effort. From what I read, ACK will not be making anything. ACK has supplied the design specs for Amiga Inc to hire a manufacturer. You may boycott ACK indirectly by boycotting Amiga Inc. But it's futile to boycott something offering you no service or product. Bad mouthing is still an option though.

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@ DrBombcrater

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DrBombcrater wrote: I have no idea about US or Canadian laws, but in Europe (certainly in the UK) selling below a price recommended by the manufacturer (called MRRP here) is not only legal but common practice. The manufacturer of a tin of beans may set the MRRP at 30p, but if the supermarket decides to sell it to me for 10p that's their business. You mention 'dumping', but that refers to the practice of selling goods below manufacturing cost in order to harm a competitor. That's highly illegal, but very different from selling below MRRP.

In UK not in whole Europe..

Not in Italy for sure.

Because of large supermarkets and High organized distribution resellers starting selling every 2 weeks underpriced goods, there was a law some years ago to oblige these subjects to communicate their underprice sellings.

This is due to prevent that big chains of supermarkets (that have a large amout of cash) could sell always underpriced goods until all competitors will be wiped out of the market and to conquest the supremacy and impose new prices under a trust...

Actually in Italy only electronic goods could be selled underpriced without being strictly controlled...

But this is again unfair competition to my eyes..

Big chains of resellers and supermarkets that are nation-wide are killing all little stores, and the cities and country towns are losing all their distributed local stores.

In some places you must take the car and go out 20 or 30 KM out of your city to buy electronics... (And Italy it is small. It is not a normal situation as like in USA where distances are huge, andit is common that you can live even 50 or 100 or 200 KMs far from any store)...

This is not normal because the big resellers forced the little stores in countrytowns to cease their activities, due to their aggressive price politics.

In the meanwhile it seems to me that all lage stores of electronics here, after having destroying little stores are controlling and trusting prices...

Actually from advertising press these big stores leave by mail at home I discovered that TV sets are all aligned to same prices, despite of the reseller.

I call this "a TRUST"...

And there are laws to prevent it.

There are no anymore very good deals, and really sells at a baragain price, just only to realize direct profict as it happened in little stores that need quick cash in the period of Easter or Christmas, or on 1st of the year...

Now even so called "underpriced" sellings from big stores seems to be aligned to a MINIMUM price...

For example no any LCD TV or Plasma over 28" upto 37" could be sold under 399 or 499 euros...

There are LCD or Plasma TV's with ridiculous features such as 800 x 600 pixels wide and Contrast of 500:1 still sold for 899 euro (where still not priced at 1199).

None of these obsolete LCD TVs dropped under 600 Euro in italian big national stores.

And there are really interesting 1388x768 Pixel wide TVs with contrast of 6000:1 and luminance of 500, 6ms frefresh, etcetera, etcetera, which are sold at 1199...

ABSURD! Obsolete hardware TVs are still the same price of almost new hardware...

And price of obsolete TVs DON'T DROP! Minimum price of this TVs ais (as I said previously) 899 Euro.

This "trust" is a bad thing and I hope that the government will make some new laws to defend we the customers from this ####...

Obsolete hardware, obsolete computers, and TVs should drop their price really, and not "stay forever" at a "trusted" minimum price!

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There is way too much emotion in all this. Boycott? You wait over ten years in what amounts to Amiga-Prison and somebody rattles the keys and you say you want to stay in your cell because the guy with the key stinks?

And where ARE the details of this lawsuit? Where's the link?

I really don't give a darn if Bill is suing his mother. I'm a consumer. Call me cold or worse. I've waited a good portion of my LIFE for a new Amiga.
For 500 bux... GIVE IT TO ME! I'm fairly certain I paid more for my A500 back in the day.

Think Bill Gates, Jobs or Commodore didn't have sordid, seedy deals? The problem with some here in the community is that while enduring The Wait(tm) they've gotten all wrapped up in the soap opera.

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@debrun

Well said, 2 years of crying for os4 h/w & now this. Almost makes me want to laugh, but I won't.

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hello,

this announcement is just a motherboard and not a computer, ainc !!!!!

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You mention 'dumping', but that refers to the practice of selling goods below manufacturing cost in order to harm a competitor. That's highly illegal, but very different from selling below MRRP.

That is not quite correct. "Dumping" is when you sell a product in a foreign market below the price you sell it for in your home market, typically in a situation where your trying to gain market share in a non-competitive manner, or selling surplus product.

A good example would be a dairy producer selling milk for $1.00 a litre in their home market, but selling their excess in a neighbouring country for $.75 a litre. If the milk cost $.50 to produce, it's still technically "dumping".

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But better than nothing I suppose. Just barely.

People should realize this is the entry level product.

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