@AmigaHeretic

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Can you show me an "Amiga" that runs Hyperion "amigaos" that doesn't require a 3rd party CPU?

Amiga One ?

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This news item must really hurt you...

No I think is lame that they did a rip off of the AROS video that did this months ago.

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Sorry "AmigaOne" is not Amiga. AmigaOne is a trademark owned by Eyetech. The "AmigaOne" trademark is currently used by a company name "A-Eon"

Not sure how you confuse "Amiga" and "Amigaone" ??

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@AmigaHeretic

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It runs on a PPC card and does not use the Amiga cpu

There wasn't ever any Amiga CPU. Didn't you ever notice 68k series was a Motorola CPU. (And PPC is from IBM + Motorola/Freescale + Apple.) May I ask you seriously, do you feel well ?

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Hyperion uses also "Amiga OS" for its product (see software licence agreement during the installation of OS4.1). And of course, September 30 Settlement Agreement allows Hyperion to use both names ("AmigaOS" and "Amiga OS"), did you read it?

Yeah I did read. Maybe you should re-read it.

Even TrevorDick admits that Hyperion can't use the word "Amiga" or "Amiga OS", only "AmigaOS".

"does not include the word "Amiga" by itself though"

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@AmigaHeretic
You really are one of the worst trollers i have seen..
Sadly apparently still good enough to fool some of the mods here.

I feel fine. Just pointing out the news post is incorrect.

There is no such thing as AmigaOS 1.0.

I believe Rogue intentionally is trying to mislead people by using the term "AmigaOS 1.0" when no such thing ever existed. Then using it to try to legitimitaly tie it to Hyerpion "AmigaOS" 4.

The first ever "AmigaOS" is 4.0.

There is no such thing as "AmigaOS" 1.0, 1.x, 2.0, 2.x, 3.0, 3.x

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All Amiga CPU's were made by a third party.

@AmigaHeretic

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Even TrevorDick admits that Hyperion can't use the word "Amiga" or "Amiga OS", only "AmigaOS".

I think we both know that he wrote about name "Amiga" alone (eg. without OS or One). I doubt your English is worser than mine...

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Yeah I did read.

Nice joke. I highly recommend to read Definitions g. "Exclusive Licenced Marks" (page 1) and 1. Grant a., b., c. (page 3-4).

@AmigaHeretic

What the hell are you talking about? Right above your post there is a box with "Amiga OS 3.1" on it. The official box. From Commodore. You also have links to posts made by Amiga developers from the 80's mentioning "Amiga OS" as the name of the Amiga operating system.

If you're going to nitpick over a space between Amiga and OS, you're being very pedantic.

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@AmigaHeretic

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There is no such thing as AmigaOS 1.0.

"AmigaOS" is the current trade mark associated with the Amiga Operating system. What is so wrong about using it to describe the original release of the Amiga operaring system?

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The first ever "AmigaOS" is 4.0

... compare to:





Hmm.. yeah. Hyperion have totally renamed the OS. Clearly.

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Then using it to try to legitimitaly tie it to Hyerpion "AmigaOS" 4.

Hello? This whole thread is in response to a news item about a video visualising the continuous development logs from the mid 80s right up to today. They don't need to do anything to legitimitely tie OS 4 to the Amiga OS from Commodore; it IS a continuation of the OS from Commodore.

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Poster: Tomppeli Date: 5-Aug-2010 15:04:57 @AmiDelf2 Stop doing that kind of comments. (It's unfortunate users have to tell that instead of moderators.)

None of these comments were here when I last saw the thread.

@AmiDelf2

Seriously, you have single handedly managed to derail a thread in about 5 posts which has nothing to do with anything outside of the Amiga OS development time-line. This animation is (as has been mentioned several times over) a representation of the continued development of AmigaOS from its beginnings to its present (as taken from the CVS logs for the source).

There were none of this off-topic comments in the recently published AROS time-line video, so why do it in this one?

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Poster: AmigaHeretic Date: 5-Aug-2010 21:19:59 I feel fine. Just pointing out the news post is incorrect. There is no such thing as AmigaOS 1.0. I believe Rogue intentionally is trying to mislead people by using the term "AmigaOS 1.0" when no such thing ever existed. Then using it to try to legitimitaly tie it to Hyerpion "AmigaOS" 4. The first ever "AmigaOS" is 4.0. There is no such thing as "AmigaOS" 1.0, 1.x, 2.0, 2.x, 3.0, 3.x

You are intentionally nitpicking here, as well as creating a fuss over something that was never an issue. This article has nothing to do with "misleading" anyone. It is clearly labelled and "does exactly what it says on the tin". There is no tying of "Amiga OS 1.x/2.x/3.x" to AmigaOS4.x in terms of them all being Hyperions somehow. It is you solely making that inference - and to what end is anybodies guess.

You have constantly had an agenda against anything they do, which is clearly marking your posts as "Trolling". As such, consider this a warning.

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Guys, please treat this video as what it is, a visualization of the Amiga OS source-tree from its beginnings in 1985, to present. That's it, nothing more.

I think that it's pretty neat to be able to see the progression from the very first days of development through to Amiga OS 4.x as it stands today. It's also interesting to see some familiar names working on the code.

Hans

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If you hate AmigaOS(4) stay away from these topics.

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Nice video, go for the high-res one.

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@AmigaHeretic

>Yes, but your copy of 3.x runs on an "Amiga".

Also AmigaOS3 required more than A1000 to be usable, like a third party manufactured accelerator.

>If I hook up a small x86 board inside my A3000 and hook up some pins, Windows 7 doesn't magically become an Amiga Operating System

Ofcourse not.
But commodore Amiga OS code has lived untill today and that is the same Amiga OS, even though commodore died.
Commodore was going to use PA RISC (RIP) on it's Hombre based Amigas (A5000?), it would have required a rewrite of the OS to RISC CPU, just like Hyperion has done.

>Can you show me an "Amiga" that runs Hyperion "amigaos" that doesn't require a 3rd party CPU?


Amiga has never been in CPU business. It has not had it's "own" CPU.

Coold down & take a deep breath.

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Before you say Village Tronic, who do you think licensed it?

I'm sorry, I don't want to unrail the point you are trying to make. But the licensing situation for the 3.1 distribution deal Village Tronic made was murky in the most extreme and eventually led Village Tronic to be dragged into court. So this may be a, technically, weaker example of how the product name came about.