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Re: Twenty-Five Years of Development Posted on 6-Aug-2010 9:14:35
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| I had to tell the gource ppl about this awesome video,
Andrew Caudwell has now included it on the gource video wiki page: http://code.google.com/p/gource/wiki/Videos _________________ A posting a day keeps the sanity away...
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Re: Twenty-Five Years of Development Posted on 6-Aug-2010 9:33:46
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it will not document the os4 legitimity in my eyes anymore than i am aware of it at the moment. |
Might I ask what this is supposed to mean? _________________ Seriously, if you want to contact me do not bother sending me a PM here. Write me a mail
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Re: Twenty-Five Years of Development Posted on 6-Aug-2010 9:35:33
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The closest thing may have been AmigaDOS. Amiga Technologies used "Amiga OS 3.1 Workbench" after Commodores death.
I think Bill McEwen gave you a perpetual world wide license to something that never existed nor that they even had a trademark on. |
Can it get any more ridiculous than this? Don't answer, it was a rhetorical question and the answer is "no it cannot". _________________ Seriously, if you want to contact me do not bother sending me a PM here. Write me a mail
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Re: Twenty-Five Years of Development Posted on 6-Aug-2010 9:35:55
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well, nice video, but it will not convince me all alone to get any new hardware for =>os4.1 as well as it will not document the os4 legitimity in my eyes anymore than i am aware of it at the moment. |
The video was never meant to convince anyone of doing anything.
I wonder why people can't simply take the video for what it is: A graphical representation of the development of the AmigaOS source code. The few events that were mentioned are there for reference, i.e. to clarify which state represents which version of the source code, and the impact certain events had on the development.
Regarding legitimacy: There's no need to convince you. AmigaOS is AmigaOS. 1, 2, 3, 4, it doesn't matter.
Finally, I would like to say that I am really wondering about some people's tendencies to turn every single thing that happens in the Amiga scene into an agenda pushing, parade peeing, color discussing or political motivation thing. Quite frankly, I find it disgusting. _________________ Thomas, the kernel guy
"I don't have a frigging clue. I'm norwegian" -- Ole-Egil
All opinions expressed are my own and do not necessarily represent those of Hyperion Entertainment
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Re: Twenty-Five Years of Development Posted on 6-Aug-2010 9:38:32
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I fail to see "AmigaOS" in any of those pictures. |
Get new glasses, then, for crying out loud. _________________ Thomas, the kernel guy
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Re: Twenty-Five Years of Development Posted on 6-Aug-2010 9:39:33
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It runs on a PPC card and does not use the Amiga cpu. Sad but true AmigaOS != Amiga |
ROFL. first it wasn't AmigaOS, then it wasn't Amiga...
See, I was wrong.. It CAN get more ridiculous. _________________ Seriously, if you want to contact me do not bother sending me a PM here. Write me a mail
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Re: Twenty-Five Years of Development Posted on 6-Aug-2010 9:40:53
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Can you show me an "Amiga" that runs Hyperion "amigaos" that doesn't require a 3rd party CPU |
Just for your information, EVERY AmigaOS ALWAYS ran on a third party CPU, because Commodore never built CPUs themselves. _________________ Thomas, the kernel guy
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Re: Twenty-Five Years of Development Posted on 6-Aug-2010 9:45:49
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| i shouldn't reply to posts I report so I won't do it. Suffice to say that I do not like to be called a liar, this isn't opinion anymore but libel.
I am wondering though why certain people think they have to try so hard to make this a urinating contest. Are you guys really that desperate for attention? Last edited by Rogue on 06-Aug-2010 at 09:49 AM.
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Re: Twenty-Five Years of Development Posted on 6-Aug-2010 10:02:21
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| Never mind the trolls.
Btw, a comment from the gource coder was how the colours on the names were changed. He didn't think there was support for that LOL.
He first though I'd made it, but I corrected him and said Hans was the guy. _________________ A posting a day keeps the sanity away...
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Re: Twenty-Five Years of Development Posted on 6-Aug-2010 10:18:03
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because Commodore never built CPUs themselves.
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Weeeellll... MOS Technology was part of Commodore Semiconductor Group, and they made 6502's, but i'm pretty glad they didn't use them for the Amiga _________________ Playstation Network ID: xeron6
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Re: Twenty-Five Years of Development Posted on 6-Aug-2010 10:26:58
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MOS Technology was part of Commodore Semiconductor Group, and they made 6502's, but i'm pretty glad they didn't use them for the Amiga |
But they did: there's a 6502 family microcontroller in every Commodore Amiga keyboard made. |
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Re: Twenty-Five Years of Development Posted on 6-Aug-2010 10:37:52
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| @ arnljot
btw. Gource does not yet run on AOS, does it?
Perhaps they might/could try to make it work on AOS if they get their hands on one? Last edited by KimmoK on 06-Aug-2010 at 10:39 AM.
_________________ - KimmoK // For freedom, for honor, for AMIGA // // Thing that I should find more time for: CC64 - 64bit Community Computer?
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Re: Twenty-Five Years of Development Posted on 6-Aug-2010 10:41:45
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How did you have the motivation and strength to keep on fixing the compilation process and other stuff all those years by yourself?
Btw what else did you do to the source? _________________ /Harry
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Re: Twenty-Five Years of Development Posted on 6-Aug-2010 10:48:57
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| I'm no cpp guru, but from what I could see from the code it could rely on open gl on aos.
Maybe it could be done, most tools and libraries seemed to be available to the amiga os.
But gource is mostly fun, and only a little usefull _________________ A posting a day keeps the sanity away...
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Re: Twenty-Five Years of Development Posted on 6-Aug-2010 10:55:34
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Re: Twenty-Five Years of Development Posted on 6-Aug-2010 10:57:38
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How did you have the motivation and strength to keep on fixing the compilation process and other stuff all those years by yourself? |
Curiousity was the driving force, pure and simple
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Btw what else did you do to the source? |
Mostly making it build if it didn't do that already. When I started, four different 'C' compilers and at least three different assemblers were needed to build all operating system components. This would include the original 'C' compiler AmigaOS 1.x was developed with. That compiler only ran on "Sun 2" and "Sun 3" workstations, or with a little kernel hacking, under NetBSD 68k in SunOS compatibility mode.
By the time I was finished with the first stage of the work, I had ported and/or rewritten existing code to require only two different 'C' compilers and two different assemblers, and it was no longer necessary to use a cross-compiler. |
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Re: Twenty-Five Years of Development Posted on 6-Aug-2010 16:05:38
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Sadly Hyperion has no OS for an Amiga. Just the use of a name that AI or Hyperion made up "Amigaos"? Never heard of it. |
Just for you, and for you only, I present this image:
Click here
Sure, that's not Commodore, but Amiga Technologies. It's the first page of the AmigaOS (pun intended) 3.5 installation manual, and I'll gladly accept your apologizes. _________________ Seriously, if you want to contact me do not bother sending me a PM here. Write me a mail
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Re: Twenty-Five Years of Development Posted on 6-Aug-2010 17:23:19
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...this isn't opinion anymore but libel. |
Let's just hope it doesn't go beyond libel and into death threat territory again...
We all know how some of the... er... more special fans get a little overexcited about simple matters like the evolution of the Amiga source code. _________________ ExecSG Team Lead
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Re: Twenty-Five Years of Development Posted on 6-Aug-2010 17:31:35
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Are you guys really that desperate for attention? |
Speaking of attention, it seems Slashdot picked up the story as well.
An interesting little marketing weapon you have there... _________________ ExecSG Team Lead
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Re: Twenty-Five Years of Development Posted on 6-Aug-2010 17:44:44
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No I think is lame that they did a rip off of the AROS video that did this months ago. |
It's hardly a rip-off, yes AROS might have provided the inspiration but I'm sure AROS were not the first to do one of these videos and also 'ripped off' the idea from elsewhere. |
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