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Re: AmigaOne 500 revealed Posted on 20-Sep-2011 14:26:21
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Yeah I know but it about the Branding. If they ship the mainboard with an Amiga One 500 sticker then one can do the self build and put the sticker on their choice of case. I do prefer to build my own systems. I also enjoy looking at pictures from Amiga shows etc of other Amigans cases. Anyway once it runs AmigaOS 4.x no problem .
/quote] Poster: emeck Date: 20-Sep-2011 13:14:15 Quote: ...and I hope that they add other case options soon. There are other options. If you don't like the AmigaOne 500, you can buy one of a dealer's complete system or just the mainboard to built your own system. We have some more choices now [/quote] Last edited by Spectre660 on 20-Sep-2011 at 02:28 PM.
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Re: AmigaOne 500 revealed Posted on 20-Sep-2011 14:36:59
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Anyway, nobody noticed the "File N.1" in the title. |
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Re: AmigaOne 500 revealed Posted on 20-Sep-2011 14:43:27
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You should all understand that this change is quite a major one, it's basically the end of an era. Whether you like the 500 product or not, what should be noted is that from now on, there will be a lineup of Amiga-One custom computers coming out from Aeon and Acube, of which the 500 and X1000 are just the beginning. |
Look more like one last hurrah to me. Acube repackaging old stuff and selling for insane price, A1X1K is a limited one time deal. _________________
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Re: AmigaOne 500 revealed Posted on 20-Sep-2011 14:52:33
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| Yeah,great!!!
I was playing and using my Amiga 500 the day the new Amiga One 500 was announced and I have something like a premonition to have this machine out because the Amiga 500 is great and effectively it made a succesor in the shape of the new Amiga One 500.
I hope this machine can be a worth succesor to the Amiga One and to the Amiga 500 too.
Will this be a more stable machine than my Amiga One or will it have the same problems as ours inestable machines have running OS4.1 Update 3?
I played yesterday Gainforce and Ghost'n'Goblins and it was great!!! Days ago I played other games and I have to say that if this new machine has the spirit of the Amiga 500 I will be very glad to play with it and buy one for sure.
But for that I have to make room for my Amiga One 500 new machine if I buy it;Will I have to sell the PC Notebook or maybe the Amiga One?
Time will tell... Last edited by newlight on 22-Sep-2011 at 03:44 PM.
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Re: AmigaOne 500 revealed Posted on 20-Sep-2011 15:02:11
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i think, the brandunification is absolutely necessary and the case looks good! come on guys, show a little bit more support and respect for acube - they deserve it!!! |
+1 ! There is just so much wining whatever anyone does and that sucks _________________ - Don't get fooled by my avatar, I'm not like that (anymore, mostly... maybe only sometimes) > Amiga Classic and OS4 developer for OnyxSoft.
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Re: AmigaOne 500 revealed Posted on 20-Sep-2011 15:29:40
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Re: AmigaOne 500 revealed Posted on 20-Sep-2011 16:04:14
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| I think it needs a better case, one in compliance with the X1000 case design.
Afterall, it's 1000 euros... surely 50 or 100 euros more for a better, well designed case wouldn't turn off prospective customers. _________________
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Re: AmigaOne 500 revealed Posted on 20-Sep-2011 16:44:20
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There is just so much wining whatever anyone does and that sucks |
Usually the AOS camp only starts whining when something is done wrong. In this CASE it's just something which is very important, which is done poorly.
I fully understand people get upset, when Acube miss a standing still target by a mile. I mean come on, anybody could imagine this reaction from the old and proud amiga community if they send out a 14 day teaser of this character. And especially if it results in nothing new but a new naming scheme for their sam boards. (which i think is cool)
It would have been so easy for them to make it so much more exciting than this. They should have waited, untill they had something new hardware wise. It could have been just a better graphics chip or an XMOS chip onboard or something. Then they should have found a better beautiful stylish case, and launched it with a fun short teaser campaing (or not)
The result would have been so much differentLast edited by Hondo on 20-Sep-2011 at 04:46 PM.
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Re: AmigaOne 500 revealed Posted on 20-Sep-2011 17:01:22
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It's not an AmigaOne board and by that I mean it fails to meet the following requirements: A desktop PPC CPU with AltiVec and L2/L3 caches onboard. A UBoot that supports all features a standard A1 does. Support for the A1 SLB and booting Linux from an a1boot.conf file. As well as dual boot support for OS4 and Linux with no extra boot partitions needed if FFS2 is used. I'm afraid the Sam boards didn't meet this requirement last time I checked. So unless these are fulfilled technically I don't think it's an AmigaOne. |
From page12 of AInc's preliminary injunction May 25th 2007 :- Quote:
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No mention of Altivec, caches, UBoot, SLB, or dual-boot, and this is from AInc's own declaration. In fact my A1XEG3-800 doesn't have Altivec, but I guarantee it's an Eyetech Amigaone. _________________ Peter Swallow. A1XEG3-800 [IBM 750FX PowerPC], running OS4.1FE, using ac97 onboard sound.
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Re: AmigaOne 500 revealed Posted on 20-Sep-2011 17:09:24
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| Ugghhh....that thing looks just like a piece of Samsonite luggage I once owned back in 1973.
I can still see the gorilla tossing it around! LOL |
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Re: AmigaOne 500 revealed Posted on 20-Sep-2011 17:57:14
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| I think a lot of the posts here have missed the point. This announcement isn't really about a new machine from ACube, or indeed about anything tangible.
This is the announcement that Hyperion have licensed the AmigaOne brand to ACube Systems for their line of PowerPC motherboards, provided that they are sold as complete systems with the attendant AmigaOne branding. Which is to say, the boingball and the AmigaOne wordmark.
This is a significant event, even if this significance is mainly due to branding politics. |
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Re: AmigaOne 500 revealed Posted on 20-Sep-2011 18:07:32
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One step at a time, surely?
The news story here is that Sam complete systems (which never came in especially flashy cases) are now called AmigaOne 500s. Nothing more, nothing less. Yes, drool-inducing desk candy would be lovely but it's not like the situation is getting worse. The AmigaOS 4.1 hardware situation is the same as it was a month ago, except for a small but sentimentally very significant step in the right direction. Let's see what A-Cube does next, now that they're a player in AmigaOne branding.
I personally think it's cool that an Amiga computer with a track record of delivering (albeit at niche specialist rather than mainstream competitive prices) now gets to slap AmigaOne on its pre-built systems. Also, I kind of feel that my Sam440 has become a little more "Amiga" by association, even though it sort of hasn't _________________ My new blog
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Re: AmigaOne 500 revealed Posted on 20-Sep-2011 18:19:23
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I disagree.
'The Amiga sticker looks out of place'? What - on an Amiga? Yes it's just a case but it has a 460 inside. This isn't iWin or CBM USA - it actually has the 460 in it which runs OS4.
Yes it would have been nicer to have a custom case in the style of the Fantasy - that would have sold a lot more - but it's hardly iWin.
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I said IWin era, right when the PC market started replacing lame beige cases with el-cheapo plastic enclosures which were even worse. The LC-POWER 2039MB case is just crap and ugly. The nside of the case is below standard too. ACube could easily do better for a product that costs 1000+ euros and supposedly continues a great legacy of an iconic machine.
If this is ACube's first step at building a product line it is uninspiring and the whole marketing plan (i.e. "ACube top secret") simply sucked.
Nevertheless, failing to identify pitfalls and drawbacks don't make people more "Amigans" than us who criticise things. We certainly are not naysayers or negative and most of us have already spent more money on Amiga over the years than the enthusiast PC user could even dream. Looking at the various donations and considering the age of the average Amiga (or retro) user overpricing low-demand products for a niche market might not be a problem but rather the lack of vision and inspiration.Last edited by toRus on 20-Sep-2011 at 06:21 PM.
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Re: AmigaOne 500 revealed Posted on 20-Sep-2011 19:28:29
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| I was a bit dissapointed but it was more or less what I expected so no big suprice. It all feals very meh to me. A very mediocre PC-tower with hardware that we already new about.
I don't expect more but I wish that something a bit more exciting could be created. To take a boring-looking tower and slap on stickers on it just doesn't do it for me. I don't think that it's THAT ugly, I've seen worse but it isn't anything special either. Bland and boring. |
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Re: AmigaOne 500 revealed Posted on 20-Sep-2011 20:15:08
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That may be so but I think calling it after the AmigaOne is misleading a bit. It's not an AmigaOne board and by that I mean it fails to meet the following requirements: A desktop PPC CPU with AltiVec and L2/L3 caches onboard. A UBoot that supports all features a standard A1 does. Support for the A1 SLB and booting Linux from an a1boot.conf file. As well as dual boot support for OS4 and Linux with no extra boot partitions needed if FFS2 is used. I'm afraid the Sam boards didn't meet this requirement last time I checked. So unless these are fulfilled technically I don't think it's an AmigaOne. |
Reading on the 460ex it has l2 cache. And a newer uboot than the A1. But yes it fails since it hasn't got the articia s. Oh, and it has usb2,sata2, pci-e,giga ethernet. So yes, it can't be A1 since it's better specced except the cpu and better built. _________________ I'm an antique. Don't light my fuse
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Re: AmigaOne 500 revealed Posted on 20-Sep-2011 21:11:15
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Another happy customer:
Guy can't give away C-USA box |
Why are you trolling? _________________ Dammy
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Re: AmigaOne 500 revealed Posted on 20-Sep-2011 21:19:50
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Re: AmigaOne 500 revealed Posted on 20-Sep-2011 22:08:10
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Redressing the balance I'd say. There is allot of negative comments against anything OS4 related at the moment... _________________ Rev 1D3 Amiga 1200, Apollo 1240 (40Mhz '040, 64MB RAM), Indivision MKII, Fast ATA MK V, Rapid Road USB, PCMCIA WIFI & OS 3.14
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Re: AmigaOne 500 revealed Posted on 20-Sep-2011 22:54:26
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It would have been so easy for them to make it so much more exciting than this. They should have waited, untill they had something new hardware wise. It could have been just a better graphics chip or an XMOS chip onboard or something. Then they should have found a better beautiful stylish case, and launched it with a fun short teaser campaing (or not)
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No, it wouldn't have been! Just a different group of whiners would have appeared.
____________ Moxee _________________ Moxee AmigaOne X1000 AmigaOne XE G4 I'd agree with you, but then we'd both be wrong.
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Re: AmigaOne 500 revealed Posted on 20-Sep-2011 22:59:02
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Another happy customer:
Guy can't give away C-USA box |
Please don't drag Commodore USA into this news thread.
Nothing is stopping you from making your own thread if you care to.
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