@elwood

Whether I feel betrayed or not depends on how Eyetech responds to this. Clearly, having to give up a precious PCI slot for an IDE controller is a serious issue - it means once the sound card is fitted there's only one free PCI slot.

The least they should do is offer free Si680 cards to those who want one (I suspect it'd be easier for most people to buy one locally, but Eyetech needs to make a gesture). Preferably, they should work with MAI to find a fix for this and then release details of the required patch so that dealers and suitably skilled users can do the fix.

I'd much prefer a fix to a PCI IDE card because I worry about what other places this problem will manifest itself in the future. Will it affect Firewire cards? Or USB 2.0? Or GigaBit Ethernet? Etc,etc.

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@ajk:

If you read comment 5 in the ANN thread, you'll see that it is possible to patch. But sending a board to in to patch a few wires is a HECK of a lot more expensive than 30 EUR. So if this isn't something you can do yourself and/or contact a TV repair guy you know to help you with, it'll be a lot simpler just to grab a PCI IDE controller.

I believe the PCI IDE controller in question is the one used on the µA1 anyway, in which case it'll be supported soon enough (as in: already)

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Guess we have to look after addons for the A1-SE/XE too, to get more PCI-slots.

Something like this perhaps?

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@olegil

A patch you say now your talking my language that would not be a prob for me to do where do i find the details on how to fix the problem ?

a smile is slowly returning to my sulky face

The fix is called April 3.

Honestly, if it comes down to HAVING to buy a PCI IDE controller, I would just prefer to run the SCSI card I have that UBoot supports. I wanted my A1 to be full SCSI only anyways instead of fooling around with IDE issues. So if it comes down to eating another PCI just for IDE, I'd rather ditch that idea for a SCSI only system(which I have all the parts for). So the next obvious question is, what is the status of a symbios SCSI card driver for OS4?

Thanks!

@poweramiga

These cards are very common. Do not even think of buying one from overseas, you can get them anywhere in Australia!

Regards,

Ross..

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@poweramiga2002 seriously this cant be for real its goto be some sort of joke the onboard sound not working was not so bad but this its beyond a joke !!!

That's the same thing I was tellin' myself.

This isn't cool at all.

But then again, these ATX mobos are supposedly BETA products. I hope that the next batch (and the microA1s) won't these unfortunate issues.

Buy a card from me

@angrybrit

AFAIK, the new batch of XEs, and the MicroA1 do not have this problem.

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BTW, additional information here !

I did read the thread and like the idea that IDE gets faster on our A1
Actually it are these figures I like very much:
http://s.guillard.free.fr/OS4/si680ide.jpg

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@xeron

with the new batch of ATX A1, will they take out the on-board audio or just put in ones that will work?

...I'm recovering from the shock .....


So, another thing: "less than 4 secs after, wb was up with amidock"

More details please.
What reset methode was used exactly?

(IIRC, the warm reboot time was 12 seconds before this, @ the saku meeting @ Tampere the booting time was even longer))

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@angrybrit:

There's no AC'97 codec chip on the XE anymore.
It's not the codec that didn't work, it's the AC'97 controller inside the southbridge that didn't work (same problem exists on the SE, which I discovered after I built a small AC'97 soundcard for my board).

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Maybe they should cancel the MicroAOne-C and mass-produce the MicroAOne-I as a replacement, the via686b #### will never be any good, so way don't just drop it.

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The VIA IDE on the MicroAOne-C works, as far as i'm aware, even with ethernet. So theres no problem there.

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to all the people that feel betrayed by Eyetech...

I'm actually pleasantly surprised by the reaction so far. I expected a lot more 'lawyer' talk and such as people realign their expectations with the reality of the situation.

Using that VIA chip for IDE seemed like a good idea at the time but hind sight... I'm quite glad the next gen. boards (Micro-A1-I) avoid using the VIA for IDE altogether.

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I did read the thread and like the idea that IDE gets faster on our A1 Actually it are these figures I like very much: http://s.guillard.free.fr/OS4/si680ide.jpg

Yes, a huge step from slow PIO to the udma modes.

Don't get me wrong though, it is very good news to see figures showing fast speeds that works reliably

I'm just not too keen on getting yet another PCI-card to replace a function that was supposed to be on-board the mobo though.
I also got 2 udma100 harddrives in my A1, those does not benefit at all from a udma133 controller.
The only benefit with an extra dma-controller card, I can see is the one Elwood came with, that one can use 8 ide-devices, with the A1.

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I just ordered a controller card with the supported chipset on it. From www.axiontech.com (They are in the USA, it cost $17.95 for the card, and they have 10 left.)

It's something to do while I'm waiting for the Software Update, waiting for the UPS man to bring me the controller card.

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@ssolie

It's far too early for legal arguments. If all the affected boards can be patched to fix this problem, the whole issue will just fade away except for the odd vitriolic thread on ANN.

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