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Software News   Software News : "OS4 meets PalmOS"
   posted by ssolie on 13-Jul-2005 15:43:03 (2617 reads)
PalmOS can now talk to OS4 via a native port of pdalink.library I just uploaded to OS4Depot along with the PdaTime and PdaTransfer utilities.

This is a native OS4-only port and does not include a glue file so it is not currently usable from 68K applications (e.g. Spitfire). I wasn't able to get any sync software to run on OS4 myself so I figure nobody needs the 68k backwards compatibility right now.


I have a Palm IIIe I received as a gift some years ago and I wanted to backup and restore its data using OS4. I already use Spitfire on my 3.x box but that won't run for me on OS4 so I went searching for a solution. Spitfire uses the pdalink.library to do its dirty work and pdalink is GPL (thanks to Richard Koerber) so I ported it. With the included PdaTransfer utility you can perform backups, installs, restores, etc. via the command line.

I've tested it with both of my serial ports on my A1XE. I wiped out my Palm IIIe's memory and restored it with no problems so I'm pretty confident it is working correctly.

I'm still working on making the source code more OS4 friendly so it isn't included yet. I did make some bug fixes along the way as well. When I'm done it will be directly usable from your OS4 SDK with a simple #include <proto/pdalink.h>.
    

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Re: "OS4 meets PalmOS"
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is this likely to work on USB ?
what's required ?

I have a Sony Clié (SJ30/E) which has the USB cradle.

of course, it might be a larf to try getting IrDA working on OS4 !!


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Excelent news, thank you.

This only works through serial now, right? Hope USB connection can be easily added later so I can try my m125. For now, I'll see if I can find the old Palm III and see how it works here.


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Only serial devices are supported by pdalink.library right now as has always been the case. Given the design of the library it should be relatively easy to modify it to support different data pipes such as USB. The OpenSocket() function uses tags after all so it is ready for such expansions. Some other changes would be required to other parts of the library but it wouldn't be too difficult from what I've seen so far.

Modifying the protocol support, if required, would be more involved of course. At some point it may be easier just to port the original Un*x-ish library it is based on instead of merging the changes but that decision is entirely based on demand. I needed a way to backup my Palm IIIe and I now have a solution so I'm happy.

Guess I should work on some kind of GUI next...


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Hi Steve,

Thank you very much for your work on this project. If you can get it to support a USB link and add a GUI, I and many others will be very happy.

Looking forward to interfacing my Clie with my uA1!

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Hi ssolie,

thank you for your work on that. If you think USB support should be doable I hope you will implement it soon. Most of today's Palms have USB cradles as mine does. Can you also do a 68k version for us Amithlon/UAE/... users, please? That way we could use Spitfire again. This would be great as Spitfire has nearly everything that is necessary for handling Palms together with Amigas.
BTW: did you try Spitifre on UAE for OS4? Chances are it works.

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Yeah please an 68k version...and thanx on this project!


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@ssolie

I'll see if an USB-serial adapter works for my Palm for now (until you add USB support :hint)

(I know serial to USB does, but USB to serial adapters exist?)

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Quote:

but USB to serial adapters exist?)


It should be impossible - how do you notice device change using serial port?
Usb port has extra functionality over serial and thus it can be "downgraded" and used as serial prot via adapter. But not the other way.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

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@ ssolie

Thanks for this...

(Can I give my vote for an USB version ? )


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Quote:
Correct me if I'm wrong.


You must be right. It seems that there is not such adapter available.


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I think it should be doable - all thats needed is a usb type drivers for PalmOS devices, and then just choose the device from a requester ? oh - no gui, so a command line option specifying palmosusb.device I guess...

actually, I think I'm showing my ignorance of the finer points of USB drivers...

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Any chance of a similar program for Windose CE / Pocket PC?


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