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Hardware News   Hardware News : Troika NG Progress Report
   posted by Troika on 26-May-2006 3:36:43 (28525 reads)
We thought a progress report was in order as we have some very good news. After much development we are happy to report that version 1.4 of Amy'05 is nearly complete. Our next progress report will contain lots of information about Amy, along with the much awaited Photo's!

For many of the first adopters of Eyetech Amiga One models, their needs and wants have grown past the specifications of the machines they are currently using and they wish to upgrade to a more modern motherboard design.


Our original intent with project “Prometheus” was to design and build several low cost lines of motherboards, built on proven technology. The Amy’05 design would be followed by a more powerful design. When we designed Amy’05 we did not envisage the changes that have taken place in the Power PC market, most notable, Apple's shift from PowerPC to Intel that has presented both problems as well as opportunities for Troika.

While developing Amy’05 we have been investigating several good opportunities for the existing Amiga user base. We have found others with similar business interests to ours, from which we were able to form new alliances which has allowed us to begin due diligence procedures for purchasing a design of a higher end motherboard. Acquiring the rights to this motherboard will allow us to bring a higher end board to market far quicker than if we were to design one from the ground up. Also, by forming new alliances we will be able to bring the per unit cost of this motherboard down - a saving that we wish to pass on to you.

We would like to show you photographs of our higher end motherboard but our NDA does not permit this. However, we are able to show you pictures that have been cropped to conceal the board’s identity.

Provided we are able to do this, we plan on offering this higher end motherboard as a compliment to our first line of Amy motherboards.

We have been down this road before, with announcements based on assurances from third parties who have failed to deliver. Amy’05 has encountered problems but they are all in the past.

Between now and then we shall post regular progress reports, instead of intermittent press releases and promises.

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Re: Troika NG Progress Report
Posted on 29-May-2006 12:02:24
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Whats up Troika? run out of bog paper and decided to make an announcement because the "true" Amigans will be happy to assist in tongue up bottom action.

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@Gary_C

You missed the point.BBRV\Genesi have been espousing their desire to provide a plarform for AO4...i.e "Amiga" as opposed to candy plastic version they provided.
They even had quite alot to say about it and ownership and such and even were going to magnaminously allow hyperion to continue producing OS4 for a fee at one point.

Yet after all this posturing they provide what? Oh yes thats right, not one thing that AOS4 will currently run on.Therefore, by that logic, they have less credibility than troikia and ack by far.They have 6 years or more of bull talk and nothing else.

They still continue in this same vien.

For all the talk they certainly have not yet walked the walk.


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You missed the point.BBRV\Genesi have been espousing their desire to provide a plarform for AO4...i.e "Amiga" as opposed to candy plastic version they provided.


Sorry, I didn't want to get into this discussion, but what the hell? Sorry mate, the candy plastic version seems to be hardware proven to work, with an excellent service track record on behalf of bPlan. Nothing can change this. The fact that they have no licence and as such no AmigaOS4 port doesn't change the fact that they have more hardware than Troika or Ack ever had. Whether it's relevant to the AmigaOS4 market is a totally different story. Choose your arguments better next time.


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Samwel,

Quote:
Yes, I agree! Those two questions shouldn't be a secret. But why are You, that
clearly isn't interrested in OS4, persuing this vandetta with demanding things
from Troika?


I won't try to speak for gary_c, but why would one have to be interested in OS4 in order to speak out or ask obvious questions when one sees something that's Just So Wrong?

I'm just glad that someone seems to be thinking and actually understanding what these announcement-announcements are really (not) saying. Apparently "the uninterested ones" are needed, as quite many of us who ARE interested in OS4 seem to forget asking those questions and instead post bizarre statements about "good progress" and dancing bananas.

BTW, vendetta? That suggests there's retaliation involved. It's just obvious questions that would be facing ANYONE who's trying to sell something! Normally, those questions don't even have to be asked.

Quote:
We should just accept that if Troika doesn't want to tell us anything
before release it's up to them. We have no right whatsoever to demand anything
from them.


True. But anyone has all rights to ask any questions they like, and be skeptical to whatever degree they like. Of course this alleged hardware manufacturer to be also has the right to not answer these questions, but then he/they also have the right to be mocked, ridiculed and doubted.

Quote:
Just let it go! Troika will deliver or not in due time, licenced or not.


They (in case there are several people involved) are already way past "due time", aren't they? Haven't they already announced and missed an expected release date? Or am I confusing this with another pointless "new Amiga hardware" project?

I think it's more like they will deliver or not, period. They're not making much of an effort to instill trust that they'll ever deliver anything at all.

Licensed or not? Well, if they're not licensed then they are of little concern to people hoping for more hardware to legally run AmigaOS on.

Quote:
Lets just sit back and "enjoy" the ride.


We are! :)


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Posted on 29-May-2006 17:24:45
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People ask when this/these boards will boot OS4.

I ask; when will it run OS4 and play music and drive disks in UATA and render 3D and shovel LAN-traffic at 100Mbit at the same time?? It took years for the various A1 models to do that, and some still can't do it without scrambling disk-I/O, sound, gfx or simply just lock up.

I don't want to be negative, my A1 runs fine and ok, but I would very much like to upgrade to a newer faster machine, but considering the past (including Pegasos) this has proven quite difficult and needs quite some attention IMO.


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Re: Troika NG Progress Report
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Hehe, X-mas 2007... I hope not that late.


I meant of course XMAS 2006 (damn cold and headache I've got brain doesn't work as it should!)


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Re: Troika NG Progress Report
Posted on 29-May-2006 22:33:54
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@Seehund

Quote:

but why would one have to be interested in OS4 in order to speak out or ask obvious questions when one sees something that's Just So Wrong?


I don't go into Mac sites and complain about Apple dropping PPC?!? Why would I???
But I get your point though. Maybe Troika hasn't got anything to show? So why hassle
them about it? They have said they will show us when they have something to show.
About the people behind it.. I don't care! Why would anyone? It's really paranoid to
judge a project soley on the merits of who's behind it.


Quote:

I'm just glad that someone seems to be thinking and actually understanding what these announcement-announcements are really (not) saying. Apparently "the uninterested ones" are needed, as quite many of us who ARE interested in OS4 seem to forget asking those questions and instead post bizarre statements about "good progress" and dancing bananas.




Yes you have seen me post bananas.. ehh NILL times on AW.net? Or maybe one
time, don't remember (not connected to a hardware news statement anyway.)..

Actually any news is good news in short term. If Troika fail to deliver it's of course
really bad news in long term.
Hmm I call the "the uninterested ones" blue/negative people

The problem with these questions are that you guys are treating Troika like a big
company when they clearly aren't. They're probably 2-3 guys working on their
spare time.
If it was a larger company behind these products then yes, I would require some
info, release dates and so forth. Amiga is a small "market" today, treat it like that.


Quote:

But anyone has all rights to ask any questions they like, and be skeptical to whatever degree they like. Of course this alleged hardware manufacturer to be also has the right to not answer these questions, but then he/they also have the right to be mocked, ridiculed and doubted.


Yes I agree that asking questions and doubting them is okey. But I don't agree with
the mocking and ridiculing of anyone (especially anyone trying to do anything for
the Amiga market). That's just childish!
It's actually more about HOW you say things than WHAT you say. I have told you this
before.


Quote:

They (in case there are several people involved) are already way past "due time", aren't they? Haven't they already announced and missed an expected release date? Or am I confusing this with another pointless "new Amiga hardware" project?

I think it's more like they will deliver or not, period. They're not making much of an effort to instill trust that they'll ever deliver anything at all.

Licensed or not? Well, if they're not licensed then they are of little concern to people hoping for more hardware to legally run AmigaOS on.


Yes I agree, the Amy'05 is past "due time". But this news post wasn't really about the Amy'05. Although they mention Amy'05 as the low end product.

Like I said before don't treat these guys as you would treat a big company. I believe
they are trying their best. Most likely with a very small budget and little time.
That's why I said sit back and enjoy the ride.

Yes I agree somewhat with your points but I still think it's not something to get all worked up about.. Don't you think?

Don't you really think they have worked out the licence part before spending time
and money on a project like this? Wouldn't you?


Nice anim!


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@Deniil

I would safely say that anything without the VIA686+Articia S combination will
work wonders for any motherboard..


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@Samwel
Quote:
About the people behind it.. I don't care! Why would anyone? It's really paranoid to
judge a project soley on the merits of who's behind it.

Actually, who is 'behind' a project or company makes a huge difference and often affects whether a new company gets funded or not. There are reasons companies pay excessive/insane amounts of $$ for their CEO/CTO in some cases. If anyone does not find it highly odd that the staff/employees/head of Troika is completely unknown, I'd sort of worry about them.

If they produce something, then great. Neither company (Troika nor ACK) have shown anything substantial/believable at this point, and have both missed several claimed 'deadlines' (what, showing an AMy proto board a year back or so now, likewise both 'available Dec 2005' (or was it 2004?) for the PowerVixxen, plus 'in production next month'), as well as numerous faux pas with respect to how to handle themselves publicly and acting like 'real' companies.

The Amiga 'market' is dwindling even smaller than it's been, with each month without hardware to purchase, at least from a desktop perspective, which most of us care about. If either company (Troika or ACK) actually produce something (meaning something that can be purchased, and actually runs OS4) in the near future, I expect a lot of their 'shortcomings' with respect to missed deadlines, 'fluff' postings and such, will be happily forgotten about. If not, or if they wait too long, it all becomes more and more irrelevant with each passing week, and sooner or later there will be few left to actually read their press releases, let alone willing to spend money.

Time will tell, and at this point, the length of time seems to be dwindling.


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Posted on 30-May-2006 12:30:40
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I meant of course XMAS 2006 (damn cold and headache I've got brain doesn't work as it should!)


There must be a reason why Amiga-users are always so focused on X-mas release dates.

Does anyone here remember the numerous "Will OS4 final be released around X-mas?" threads that kept popping up end of last year?
The will happen this year, only with hardware. Do you still believe in Santa Claus?

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Polka:
Well, last summer Hyperion actually announced that the "full commercial release"
of AmigaOS4 would be available "later this year" (2005).
No wonder everyone hoped for Christmas..

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@wegster

Yes that's true. Investors and alike need to know these things.. But from a
customers (end users) POW it's not necessary to know who's making the
hardware is it? It seems only Amigans "need" to know these things.

Yes, I also think Troika should inform us of who's running the show and whom
to contact for special questions rather than a noname email address.
But we don't need to know who's designing the board or such things..

Yes again, Amiga companies need to learn how to inform the future customers
when a huge change of plans is made. Like ACK's silence for almost a year and
Troikas problems with third parties and change of board design delaying Amy'05
probably almost a year as it looks now and keeping silent about it. Not good!

I actually think that OS4 wasn't finished in december. So even if we had hardware
it's my belief that OS4 wouldn't have been released anyway. Judging by all the
small bugs in pre4 and all the modules/parts not released yet, some not even
finished.

Yes yet again.. I agree fully with your points about the dwindling Amiga market.
I think this year is actually the make or break year for Amiga. If any boards haven't
been released before christmas this year I'd say the train went and left Amiga
behind.

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Quote:

I ask; when will it run OS4 and play music and drive disks in UATA and render 3D and shovel LAN-traffic at 100Mbit at the same time?? It took years for the various A1 models to do that, and some still can't do it without scrambling disk-I/O, sound, gfx or simply just lock up.

I've been told by numerous people that these problems do not exist. You probably need to stop overclocking, change your battery, reinstall OS4, check your UBoot settings, install a SIL card, get a USB hub, upgrade your CPU cooler, and use another computer ( ONLY as a peripheral) for problems that doesn't fix.

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@OldTimeUser

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Whats up Troika? run out of bog paper and decided to make an announcement because the "true" Amigans will be happy to assist in tongue up bottom action.


What's up OTU? Run out of anything intelligent to say, so just seeing how far you can push the trolling, baiting, and flames? You just found out.

It seems your sole purpose of posting on AW is simply to repeat your same 'teh troika is teh evil!' crap, over and over again, and don't seem to actually contribute a thing here, nor be interested in doing so.

You really need to learn how to express an opinion without intentionally being as offensive as possible.

Take a week off, maybe you'll learn how to do so in that time.


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>Nice to see some progress, but why are these pictures are cropped? What are they hiding?
>I see: "but our NDA does not permit this. " -> NDA with whom? Aren't Troika is the owner of the board?

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