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Announcement   Announcement : AmigaOS4 for Classic Amiga will ship November 30
   posted by zerohero on 21-Oct-2007 9:44:09 (52360 reads)
On November 30 AmigaOS4 will ship for Classic Amigas. Hyperion made the announcement at AmiWest banquet. The following will be included in the package:

* CD-Rom with AmigaOS4
* One floppy disk to boot your Amiga. No pre-installed OS will be needed
* Manual

*addon: Now also confirmed on Hyperion homepage.
http://www.hyperion-entertainment.biz:8080/amiga
*addon: Now price confirmed on ACube Systems' homepage.
http://www.acube-systems.com/eng/news.php?id=16
    

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Re: AmigaOS4 for Classic Amiga will ship November 30
Posted on 22-Oct-2007 9:09:59
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Rogue has in the past jumped up and down explaining how he does not speak for Hyperion, so either (a) there is a rather significant change, or (b) Hyperion announced absolutely zip so far.


I was asked by the Hyperion management (officially) to ask someone from our beta list (officially) to announce the classic version (officially) on the Amiwest show.

I hope you got it this time.


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Re: AmigaOS4 for Classic Amiga will ship November 30
Posted on 22-Oct-2007 9:11:43
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Just so we are 100% clear on this, you know....


"We"? It's not like I believe you had any interest in either the news item or the product, I rather believe that your only reason for posting at all is urinating up someone's leg.


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Re: AmigaOS4 for Classic Amiga will ship November 30
Posted on 22-Oct-2007 9:17:21
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damn... all other pci solutions are not as good as the g-rex approach...


If you don't get any sort of documentation, there is little you can do. Sure, we could go and try to reverse-engineer the thing, but that takes time, and I am sure some people would cry wolf about "IP-Theft" or something like that.

It is extremely easy to support another PCI solution, but we're not likely to try without the required documentation.


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Re: AmigaOS4 for Classic Amiga will ship November 30
Posted on 22-Oct-2007 9:33:03
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Better late than never. Wonderful achievement after 6 years, congrats guys your da best.

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Re: AmigaOS4 for Classic Amiga will ship November 30
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@AmiDog: do you know if cards which use prism2.device works?

And what is the reason that 3c589 doesn't work?

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Re: AmigaOS4 for Classic Amiga will ship November 30
Posted on 22-Oct-2007 9:52:23
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@Rogue

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"We"? It's not like I believe you had any interest in either the news item or the product, I rather believe that your only reason for posting at all is urinating up someone's leg.


Wow! What a powerful and evocative image!


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Re: AmigaOS4 for Classic Amiga will ship November 30
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It is extremely easy to support another PCI solution, but we're not likely to try without the required documentation.


that mean hyperion have signed the NDA from ELBOX for the mediator documentation. Thats great.

Thanks a lot for all involved on the AOS4 for classic and for new PPC hardware.

Last edited by Mrodfr on 22-Oct-2007 at 10:19 AM.


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Re: AmigaOS4 for Classic Amiga will ship November 30
Posted on 22-Oct-2007 12:18:39
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@thread

There are as many opinions as there are people who post.

**However**....

I believe post #101 says it best. Before any of you are tempted to post ANYTHING else derogatory on this thread, I politely request you to go back and re-read Rogue's post.

If you have a problem with that, PM me. This is a 'News' thread, if you want to parry and thrust about something else, go start your own darn thread on the Forums.

I am drawing the line here __________________________________
Thank you in advance for your cooperation.
Kind regards, Yo.


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Re: AmigaOS4 for Classic Amiga will ship November 30
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I hope you got it this time.


Yes, I got it quite clearly that (officially) Hyperion, the company, is saying bugger all.

Come on, Evert travels to Italy to show off an empty box, but when it comes to actually promising delivery, he cannot be bothered to pick up a phone, create a pre-recorded message, or send an email himself? Instead, he asks you to ask someone else to make an "announcement".

Tell me honestly that you wouldn't be suspicious of such behaviour if it was done by, say, AI or Genesi. "Plausible deniability".

But hey, that's all easily solved --- let's see the great news proudly displayed on the company website, and it will be clear that all is indeed above board, that the announcement is indeed a genuine Hyperion announcement, and that the company has indeed committed itself to delivering this product at last. Wouldn't that be so much easier than getting all worked up over those evil conspiracy theorists who have the audacity to think that a Hyperion announcement should come from Hyperion first hand, not third hand?

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Re: AmigaOS4 for Classic Amiga will ship November 30
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In case there was ANY confusion, I am referring to THIS post as #101

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Rogue wrote:
I was asked by the Hyperion management (officially) to ask someone from our beta list (officially) to announce the classic version (officially) on the Amiwest show.


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Re: AmigaOS4 for Classic Amiga will ship November 30
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I cant be bothered to read the whole thread - but I noticed yet again that the year is not specified...

Who wants to bet a second lawsuit will block this? Come on, if AI are so against it then surely thats what they would do!?

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This new OS 4.0 will works in Amiga Classic with 68K and WinUAE? or only for Amiga PPC? It is for Amigas or UAE will be a great improvement for us.

Thank you for this news.

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@Templario
PPC only naturally.


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Thanks Hyperion for the great work. Lets see if I can find any of my used PPC accelerators to sell.


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Re: AmigaOS4 for Classic Amiga will ship November 30
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Yes, I got it quite clearly that (officially) Hyperion, the company, is saying bugger all.


Rogue is doing the usual "question dodging", so don't expect a straight answer. Hyperion have not announced aos4 for amigas with ppc cards. Not sure why people are blindly ignoring this important fact.

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The best news this year. I will be the luckies guy too see more os4 users :)

Thanks Hyperion

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Will indeed be nice with some more developers.

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Re: AmigaOS4 for Classic Amiga will ship November 30
Posted on 22-Oct-2007 16:31:42
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Come on, Evert travels to Italy to show off an empty box, but when it comes to actually promising delivery, he cannot be bothered to pick up a phone, create a pre-recorded message, or send an email himself? Instead, he asks you to ask someone else to make an "announcement".


So? I don't actually get your point, and clearly, how things work internally at Hyperion do not see to bother anybody but you.

Nor is it anybody's business but Hyperion's.

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Tell me honestly that you wouldn't be suspicious of such behaviour if it was done by, say, AI or Genesi. "Plausible deniability".


Honestly, I don't have any idea what you are talking about. I can only see you making up conspiracy theories. Plainly, I wouldn't give a second thought to anything that AI or Genesi might announce, through whatever channel, because I am not interested in any of their products, however, I am also not interested in urinating up their legs so I don't go posting on MorphOS sites about it.

Contrary to other people I know.

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But hey, that's all easily solved --- let's see the great news proudly displayed on the company website, and it will be clear that all is indeed above board, that the announcement is indeed a genuine Hyperion announcement, and that the company has indeed committed itself to delivering this product at last. Wouldn't that be so much easier than getting all worked up over those evil conspiracy theorists who have the audacity to think that a Hyperion announcement should come from Hyperion first hand, not third hand?


Well, it is quite easy: take it, or don't. I care not. Most people seem to be content as it is now, and yes, I suppose there will be an appropriate press release on the web site, but honestly, who (besides you) cares? It's easy to verify anyway, everybody will know on November 30th. Until that time, make of it what you would like.

Other than that, see my previous post (#101)


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Re: AmigaOS4 for Classic Amiga will ship November 30
Posted on 22-Oct-2007 16:33:11
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I cant be bothered to read the whole thread - but I noticed yet again that the year is not specified...


The year in question is 2007. And of course, to keep Bernie happy, I don't speak for Hyperion so this number is totally unofficial. I am quite sure that Bill or Steven would have mentioned a year had they known it was so bothersome.


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Posted on 22-Oct-2007 16:40:34
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Rogue is doing the usual "question dodging", so don't expect a straight answer.


I am dodging answers not questions. Subtle difference.

What part of my statement in comment #101 did you not understand? I admit that I am not a native English speaker, so if you want me to explain any specific part, please let me know so I can try and explain it maybe in easier words.

Food for thought: Since I also maintain Hyperion's web site, maybe everything you read there is something I made up myself?


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