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Re: Sputnik for AmigaOS bounty canceled - further info Posted on 27-Dec-2008 18:00:08
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| Sad to read this, really... |
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Re: Sputnik for AmigaOS bounty canceled - further info Posted on 27-Dec-2008 18:13:28
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| Sad news... Really Marcik wont gon on on Sputnik development fo OS4? Any post from him here?
PS Maybe we can have a FlashPlayer plugin Bounty????? there's anything around that can be ported? Last edited by Tuxedo on 27-Dec-2008 at 06:18 PM. Last edited by Tuxedo on 27-Dec-2008 at 06:18 PM.
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Re: Sputnik for AmigaOS bounty canceled - further info Posted on 27-Dec-2008 18:45:50
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| I'd love to see some of the funds transfered where it would do some good if those who donated were willing.
My idea was to help out the man from NZ working on the graphics drivers. We need to get all or as many of the graphics features upgraded.
Need to look for posts on AW for more info...... _________________ "The system no longer works " -- Young Anakin Skywalker
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Re: Sputnik for AmigaOS bounty canceled - further info Posted on 27-Dec-2008 18:58:29
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| That's a real shame. I was looking forward to Sputnik on OS4.
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Re: Sputnik for AmigaOS bounty canceled - further info Posted on 27-Dec-2008 19:10:56
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| WARNING.... I totally reject the notion of canceling bounties.
1st time it happens, it leads to the likelihood of it happening to other bounties.
Each time it happens, it builds up fear in the community. Possible bounty hunters think 10x longer when they know, there is a bad history / reputation of cancellations.
I would encourage those who value the fair Terms / Conditions of bounties, to place your money back into the Sputnik project, via an escrow service or another Bounty site. Last edited by meet.mrnrg on 27-Dec-2008 at 07:11 PM.
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Re: Sputnik for AmigaOS bounty canceled - further info Posted on 27-Dec-2008 19:39:47
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| If i get the money back i will send them to owb and sabremsn project.
EDIT: I will not get back money but it will go directly to the devs Last edited by Kicko on 28-Dec-2008 at 10:47 AM.
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Re: Sputnik for AmigaOS bounty canceled - further info Posted on 27-Dec-2008 20:04:38
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| @meet.mrmrg
Whilst I don't like cancelling bounties either, the Sputnik bounty had a deadline after which the money would be refunded to donors if the port wasn't done. This deadline expired ages ago. Therefore this cancellation is not unexpected, and is fair.
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Re: Sputnik for AmigaOS bounty canceled - further info Posted on 27-Dec-2008 20:10:18
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| @ Kicko
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If i get the money back i will send them to owb and sabremsn project. |
This sounds good to me also.
But if you don't ask for your money back it will go to either OWB or NetSuft. This is good for my money donated.
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Please send me the email before January 31, 2009 so I can get the money back to all of you (or to other OS4 projects) ASAP. If I haven't received any email by the end of January 2009 I will donate your money to the developers of the OS4 version of either NetSurf or OWB. |
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Re: Sputnik for AmigaOS bounty canceled - further info Posted on 27-Dec-2008 20:35:33
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| You guys can just email me and I will return your money. Or if you want me to I can send it to any other OS4 developer if you provide me with the right Paypal address.
I will of course make a list of what went where, so everyone can see what happened to their money. But the best would be if I send the money ahead so we could avoid further paypal fees. _________________
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Re: Sputnik for AmigaOS bounty canceled - further info Posted on 27-Dec-2008 21:06:01
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| This is good news. I'm impressed that you are doing the work to make full accounting for both the programmers and financial contributors. Removing this bounty allows us to focus our resources, and we are spread way too thin across everyone's wish list of applications. At minimum, we only need one great web browser and we already have 3 good ones released and in continued development.
The AmigaOne that was provided for this project either needs to be returned or used towards another software project. Who has it? Last edited by logicalheart on 27-Dec-2008 at 09:07 PM.
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Re: Sputnik for AmigaOS bounty canceled - further info Posted on 27-Dec-2008 21:26:31
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the Sputnik bounty had a deadline after which the money would be refunded to donors if the port wasn't done. |
That's why my idea to transfer some of the funds for your work Hans is a great idea!
Do you still have need of a lcd screen for HD drivers etc?
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Re: Sputnik for AmigaOS bounty canceled - further info Posted on 27-Dec-2008 22:01:29
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| I didn't donate to the Sputnik bounty but just today I donated to Netsurf and a couple of days ago donated to OWB.
I think it's important we have 2 CSS capable webbrowsers to choose from and since Firefox wasn't and isn't going anywhere I thought that would be a good idea. _________________ AmigaOne-XE G3 OS 4. A4000 PPC A1200 PPC
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Re: Sputnik for AmigaOS bounty canceled - further info Posted on 27-Dec-2008 22:36:28
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| @Interesting
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I have a suitable LCD screen now which was partially paid for with donations (so thank you to everyone who donated so far), but donations are always gratefully accepted.
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Re: Sputnik for AmigaOS bounty canceled - further info Posted on 28-Dec-2008 10:32:49
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| @meet.mrnrg As someone else said, the deadline for the bounty has long-ago expired (nearly 1 year), with almost no communication from the developer. This seems pretty fair, if sad news.
IMHO this is *good news*, because it will encourage users to donate to bounties again, rather than feel burned & never do it again. It is also good for developers, because it encourages them to agree to realistic deadlines BEFORE agreeing to the bounty, and keep them motivated once they have agreed (rather than letting it slide when RL proves troublesome).
IMHO this cancelling of the bounty is something that the author of Sputnik should have done himself, since he is obviously unable to meet the conditions of the bounty. _________________ Author of the PortablE programming language. It is pitch black. You are likely to be eaten by a grue...
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Re: Sputnik for AmigaOS bounty canceled - further info Posted on 28-Dec-2008 11:06:56
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| So, let's forget Sputnik and put the money in OWB and Netsurf... The goal, should be a browser with:
- full CSS support - full Javascript support - Flash support (and this is the biggest problem: let's put money for it...) _________________ A1200/020+68882 - 6 MB RAM - AmigaOS 3.0
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Re: Sputnik for AmigaOS bounty canceled - further info Posted on 28-Dec-2008 11:25:54
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| @ALL
If you donated to the Sputnik bounty please read this.
As I will be away all of January I hope many of you decide what I should do with your donation ASAP.
If I haven't got an email on Tuesday it won't be processed until the beginning of February, as I probably won't have internet access where I'm staying in January. _________________
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Re: Sputnik for AmigaOS bounty canceled - further info Posted on 28-Dec-2008 12:04:01
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It's a real shame to hear about the cancellation of a bounty, even more when it's for such an important piece of software for OS4 like a modern web browser, but I must say that even if I was really wanting it, I never saw Marcik too motivated, to be fair.
Anyway, while waiting for it, some other motivated and pro-OS4 programmers have developed some very good alternatives, being OWB from Jörg Strohmayer my favourite, so transfer the money I donated for Sputnik to his account. Thanks.
I'll send you an email, but I want this to be publicly known.
Saluditos,
Ferrán.
Edit: I'll send the email ASAP since my flat is being completely refurbished, I'm on a temporary house and my A1 is on a box... Last edited by Ferry on 28-Dec-2008 at 12:07 PM.
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Re: Sputnik for AmigaOS bounty canceled - further info Posted on 28-Dec-2008 12:41:35
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| I'd rather have a 'bounty' fro the guys behind IBrowse. Lets get full java, CSS and flash for THAT ! Otherwise it's an excelent browser. Even without being OS4 native. Imagine it also being OS4 native...
my 2cts....
btw, where's version 3 ?? Last edited by Metalheart on 28-Dec-2008 at 12:42 PM.
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Re: Sputnik for AmigaOS bounty canceled - further info Posted on 28-Dec-2008 12:48:30
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| @Ferrán
Check your PM, you don't ned to email me. Good luck with the flat _________________
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Re: Sputnik for AmigaOS bounty canceled - further info Posted on 28-Dec-2008 13:50:32
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| Sad to hear anyway, If somehow MOS - OS4 converting could be made easier or emualtion made possibile by a extra layer with benefit of both OSes (eventualy evolving to real OS 5).
However, it would be good if you could decide to support some really promising Amiga Bounty
LIke Java http://amigabounty.net/?function=viewproject&projectid=32
Or Flash Player http://amigabounty.net/?function=viewproject&projectid=31 _________________ OS 3.x AROS and MOS supporter, fi di good, nothing fi di unprofessionalism. Learn it harder way! SinclairQL and WII U lover :D YT http://www.youtube.com/user/rasvoja
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