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Software News   Software News : Odyssey Web Browser Bounty Project for AmigaOS & AROS
   posted by ASiegel on 12-Nov-2013 19:15:47 (8087 reads)
The aim of the Odyssey Bounty Project is to license a current version of the full-featured Odyssey Web Browser and share it under an open source license so it can be fully ported to AmigaOS and AROS.



While the author of the Odyssey Web Browser has previously shared parts of his work entirely for free, which already improved the browser choices on these two platforms by a great deal, these existing ports of Odyssey use an outdated version of the Webkit browser engine and lack key functionality such as the capability to play HTML5 video.

For more information about the Odyssey Web Browser and the funding campaign, please visit:
www.power2people.org
    

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Re: Odyssey Web Browser Bounty Project for AmigaOS & AROS
Posted on 12-Nov-2013 23:50:51
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Fantastic news. Without owb my x1000 wouldn't get used nearly as much. Would be great to have the latest version.

Love the idea to open source it.

Also stability should be good if the existing port is anything to go by.

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Re: Odyssey Web Browser Bounty Project for AmigaOS & AROS
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I am not trying to troll but I was under the impression the Odyssey was a fork of the GPL licensed OWB web bowser and as such everyone supplied a copy of the Odyssey web browser should also be supplied a copy of the sources code on request.

If so why would anyone donate money to support GLP licences violation to me thats like paying money to support and encourage piracy

But it I am wrong about the licensing of the original OWB browser I apologise for getting things wrong in advance and may even be convinced to make a small donation for the code release


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Re: Odyssey Web Browser Bounty Project for AmigaOS & AROS
Posted on 13-Nov-2013 0:10:16
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@Dwyloc:
The Pleyo-OWB itself was BSD licensed. WebKit itself is LGPL 2.1 (that is Library GPL, you can link your own code, like the HTML5 video player against it, which may remain closed source) and BSD dual licensed, because it aims to remain freely usable for Open Source and proprietary applications. See here.

You may now proceed with the apology and the donation.


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Re: Odyssey Web Browser Bounty Project for AmigaOS & AROS
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My first reaction was "hey nice, Fab's opensourcing Odyssey" - but on closer inspection, that's not what the bounty says:

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The aim of the Odyssey Bounty Project is to license a current version of the full-featured Odyssey Web Browser and share it under an open source license

Am I reading this correctly: the sources for the current Odyssey release will be made available if the bounty is successful - but then Fab will continue to work on his own, closed source branch?

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I'll work on my private branch, and opensource new versions. I can integrate contributions, but only if they make sense. I don't want Odyssey to end like YAM, for instance...

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Just a quick question out of curiosity:

Will there be the possibility to use plugins, e.g. for blocking websites with contents not appropriated for children?

Thanks,
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DONATED !!!

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Best and most important news in long time. I will donate soon :)

Does this mean that Fab1 will also do the port to AROS and AmigaOS ?

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@nexus

It can be done already, there's a builtin content blocker in Odyssey (AdBlock syntax basically, except for DOM filtering).

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Pretty high goal price, but I will donate to this, even if I many be part of the AmigaOS porting work later. It's very much needed! More and more sites are malfunctioning due to the old webkit engine in the OS4 version.


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Posted on 13-Nov-2013 10:20:54
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I don't get why we are paying so much money for this, I have OWB for morphos on my Pegasos and granted it is better than the AmigaOS version by far however it's success rate for video playback in YouTube is very low, I have fantastic success ratio with QT SMTUBE in AmigaOS however.

Don't get me wrong it is a far superior browser than what we have and I would be pleased to see it ported.

I will hold out to see what Ssolie and his Timberwolf team produce.


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Posted on 13-Nov-2013 10:27:55
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it is not only AmigaOS and it is certainly a good browser. I will donate later too even though I prefer opensource without limitations. But I think it is urgently needed.

But I am still not sure. We get what is available right now but how about regarding future versions. Have we then donate again to get the improvements?

Last edited by OlafS25 on 13-Nov-2013 at 10:29 AM.

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I´m unsure too, who will made the port when the bounty is reached?


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@Chain-Q
Quote:
The Pleyo-OWB itself was BSD licensed. WebKit itself is LGPL 2.1 (that is Library GPL, you can link your own code, like the HTML5 video player against it, which may remain closed source) and BSD dual licensed, because it aims to remain freely usable for Open Source and proprietary applications

Thanks for clearing that up now I can happily make a small donation as soon as I get paid at the end of the month

I have always had a bit of a thing about piracy and licences violation so I did not want to give any money with first checking that I would not be funding exactly that, lets hope this opens up a very good browser for all Amiga platforms.

I for one will look forward to using latest version both on my sam440ep under OS4.1 and my Raspberry Pi under AROS


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Donated.
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So if you put nothing in you get nothing back .


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Finally bounty open. Donated

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I will hold out to see what Ssolie and his Timberwolf team produce.


It would be good to have an update - as it stands it tends to crash far too frequently to be useful.


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@Fab

are you open to changes in the bounty? i think some of us are hesitant to donate due to a couple of things that worry us, namely:

1. that any third-party dependencies with code changes will not be opened
2. that future versions may or may not be released

any openness on changing the terms somewhat to address the above? also, while you're at it, you may want andre to change that line about 'second-rate users.' heh.

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the rules of power2people say that the bounty-text cannot be changed after first donations. It is only possible to change the text by making a new bounty (and transfer money by people)

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I just donated $100 US dollars to this awesome Web browser. It's the fastest and most complete browser on my Sam 460. It deserves a fighting chance.

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