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Re: Tower57 for the Amiga Tabor announced, video available Posted on 18-Feb-2017 3:28:14
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| Looks fantastic but I wonder if there will be a performance hit in full-screen mode. A window that's 1/4 size of the desktop seems to play quite well but there are 4 times as many pixels to push in full screen at the desktop resolution vs the windowed mode. Last edited by ferrels on 18-Feb-2017 at 03:29 AM.
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Re: Tower57 for the Amiga Tabor announced, video available Posted on 18-Feb-2017 3:57:26
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| @ferrels
That's assuming full screen is running at the desktops resolution (which is pointless given the low resolution the game is designed at). Not to mention drawing to a screen is faster than drawing in to a window. Upscaling to a high resolution is of no benefit (quite the contrary) to a pixel art type game as well. On systems where hardware acceleration is modest like the amiga-oid OSes you'll also get speed gains by running a lower resolution screen mode too.
Long story short, I'd expect a bit of a speed gain in full screen mode. |
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Re: Tower57 for the Amiga Tabor announced, video available Posted on 18-Feb-2017 7:13:28
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| well i for one can't wait for this to be released  _________________ Amigaone X5000/20 4GB Radeon RX 550 Polaris 12 AmigaOS4.1 Final Edition Update 1 Amiga 1200 Workbench 3.1.4 Amiga CD32
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Re: Tower57 for the Amiga Tabor announced, video available Posted on 18-Feb-2017 8:16:58
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| Fantastic news! The first new Amiga bundle! Just add Sketchblock, the new Octamed and Wings and we have our new Amiga pack! Competition needed to give our new 'Bat Pack' a name 
Include a floppy drive and easy out of the box emulation and you will have a real chance to sell lots of new Amigas back to the mainstream. Needs a new A1200 like case too.
Well done Hyperion and A-Eon - I never thought we would get this far. _________________ Sam
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Re: Tower57 for the Amiga Tabor announced, video available Posted on 18-Feb-2017 8:58:28
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Needs a new A1200 like case too. |
Please, no by default. I was never fan of A500/1200 design. A1000 looks much better. 
Tower57 is definitely on my buy list. |
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Re: Tower57 for the Amiga Tabor announced, video available Posted on 18-Feb-2017 9:10:40
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| @pavlor
Happily have it as an option! 
I'm thinking the retro market which Trevor eluded to in his Amiga Ireland talk. Remember that the vast majority of happy Amiga memories are of the A1200/500/600 style case.
Personally I agree with you but I would like it in a mini cube instead. Last edited by -Sam- on 18-Feb-2017 at 09:12 AM.
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Re: Tower57 for the Amiga Tabor announced, video available Posted on 18-Feb-2017 10:39:38
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| Where is Wings actually? Not got it yet. |
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Re: Tower57 for the Amiga Tabor announced, video available Posted on 18-Feb-2017 11:31:28
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| @-Sam-
Not sure having Wings and Tower57, both of which are/will be available to actual mainstream (more powerful and cheaper) systems will sell *any* systems to people that wouldn't otherwise buy them. Heck, even AROS is getting versions of said software. Sketchblock and Octamed also have equals (or more accurately superior equivalents) on mainstream systems too. For free.
Also, while I appreciate the efforts of Hyperion and A-Eon you're giving them undue credit. Neither Tower57, nor Wings are their software.
Nice to have a collection of decent software building up, but it'll hardly entice new people to the platform.
@Daytona75
Thanks for your hard work :) Things seem to be slowly but surely taking shape. |
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Re: Tower57 for the Amiga Tabor announced, video available Posted on 18-Feb-2017 11:47:46
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| daniel writes this is a version compiled specifically for that particular cpu. im not sure if this is particularly cpu demanding game, but it seems that its generic ppc version runs a bit above of the speed it reaches on a sam. the question is if another version of hardware comparable to a sam in price/performance range will have that much impact. |
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Re: Tower57 for the Amiga Tabor announced, video available Posted on 18-Feb-2017 12:25:27
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| &fishy_fis
Good point. Apologies for missing that important credit out.
Daytona75 you are a hero doing what you do! But you know that already.  _________________ Sam
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Re: Tower57 for the Amiga Tabor announced, video available Posted on 18-Feb-2017 16:00:49
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daniel writes this is a version compiled specifically for that particular cpu. im not sure if this is particularly cpu demanding game, but it seems that its generic ppc version runs a bit above of the speed it reaches on a sam. the question is if another version of hardware comparable to a sam in price/performance range will have that much impact. |
From the description:
And if you check out the fps counter you'll notice that it runs pretty fast, actually quite a lot faster than on a sam460ex (around 50 fps where the sam460 reaches about 30 fps;
Of course, we need more comparisons, especially with non SPE aware software, before we can determine where Tabor sits on the performance table with other OS4.x compatible systems.
Currently there's no hint that Sam460 boards will be produced again so Tabor is likely to be the default system for new customers that want something at the cheaper end of the scale. Also, while it may not turn out to be much of an upgrade compared to the Sam460 it but it's certainly more desirable to owners Sam440 owners or people with BPPC/CSPPC systems considering a dedicated system to accompany their 68k setup. It may even tempt Pegasos 2 owners who might start feeling left out as more Warp3D Nova software comes available, and Eyetech A1 owners if it turns out that they won't work with Radeon SI cards or the 33Mhz PCI slot proves too much of a bottle neck. |
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Re: Tower57 for the Amiga Tabor announced, video available Posted on 19-Feb-2017 11:12:20
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| Nice. I backed the kickstarter for this so looking forward to getting my copy for the Amiga :) |
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Re: Tower57 for the Amiga Tabor announced, video available Posted on 20-Feb-2017 3:42:25
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| backed the kickstarter immediately and can't wait to play this under AmigaOS...Go Daniel Go  _________________ ____________________________ c64-2sids, A1000, A1200T-060@50(finally working!),A4000-CSMKIII ! My Master Miggies- Amiga 1000 & AmigaOne X1000 ! mancave-ramblings X1000 I BELIEVE 
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Re: Tower57 for the Amiga Tabor announced, video available Posted on 20-Feb-2017 19:56:10
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| ABSOLUTELY WONDERFULL! _________________ Simone"Tuxedo"Monsignori, Perugia, ITALY.
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Re: Tower57 for the Amiga Tabor announced, video available Posted on 21-Feb-2017 1:22:44
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That's assuming full screen is running at the desktops resolution (which is pointless given the low resolution the game is designed at). Not to mention drawing to a screen is faster than drawing in to a window. Upscaling to a high resolution is of no benefit (quite the contrary) to a pixel art type game as well. On systems where hardware acceleration is modest like the amiga-oid OSes you'll also get speed gains by running a lower resolution screen mode too. Long story short, I'd expect a bit of a speed gain in full screen mode. |
As a software developer I'm quite aware of the benefits and drawbacks of upscaling/downscaling. No need for the lecture.
As you seem to be in the know about how this game was developed, why don't you share with us what resolution this was written for? Or were you just implying that you knew the resolution? Until you or the developer can give us some numbers, you've done nothing but conjecture.Last edited by ferrels on 21-Feb-2017 at 06:53 PM. Last edited by ferrels on 21-Feb-2017 at 01:32 AM.
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Re: Tower57 for the Amiga Tabor announced, video available Posted on 23-Feb-2017 14:51:18
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Poster: pavlor Date: 18-Feb-2017 3:58:28 @-Sam- Quote: Needs a new A1200 like case too. Please, no by default. I was never fan of A500/1200 design. A1000 looks much better. Tower57 is definitely on my buy list. |
I don't see why A-eon can't do both. After all, the C128 came in both a keyboard case and a desktop case version. _________________ I sold my SAM460ex lite... waiting for money to buy a Raspberry Pi... or a Classic A1000 with Buffee... or an A1222... and OS4.3 FE update 11
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