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Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Part 2 Posted on 3-Jan-2010 18:02:16
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| @Kronos
You have used one? Do you know of any other real-time video switchers for that price? _________________ Sent from my Quantum Computer. |
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Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Part 2 Posted on 3-Jan-2010 18:02:22
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| @Rudei
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Rudei wrote: See posts 685, 686 and 687 on original thread page 35 for results. |
Heh I just posted them all above again after diggin them out of the javascript 'cause I couldn't find where the original post had gone :)_________________ Back to action! |
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Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Part 2 Posted on 3-Jan-2010 18:02:44
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| I have all next week free from work... I guess I'm gonna break my F5 button too...
I seccond that everyone who has read that page get one % discount based on the number of times they've F5'ed that page...
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Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Part 2 Posted on 3-Jan-2010 18:03:28
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| Yeah, I'm at work too.. But I don't mind, I work at a computer anyway, I'll just break work's F5 key instead of my own :) _________________ Back to action! |
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Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Part 2 Posted on 3-Jan-2010 18:05:59
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| @Kronos
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Kronos wrote: @JurassicC
And what would be the point ???
The toaster (Amiga-version that is) is completly outdated, and whatever such a frankenstein-computer could could be done just as good with a real Amiga. Today everything video can be done by brute CPU/GPU force. Much more sane to provide those and then write some video-SW useing it. |
Agreed however, I'm just speculating a use for the xorro slot, maybe its similar to the A1200 trapdoor slot if Xena is some sort of classic hardware emulation in an FPGA then perhaps the trapdoor signals are also emulated and wired out to the Xorro slot. Pure speculation I know until we know more.
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Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Part 2 Posted on 3-Jan-2010 18:08:39
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| I'm only half way through the first thread so hopefully I'm not duplicating too much.
I've been trying to find a chip I have laying around to compare to the one in the kindof back-right corner of the pic near the battery. I suspect but can't find my example to confirm.
Other clues: Heatsink mounting screw holes. Anyone recognize that size/pattern? Is that meaningful, or just a convenient reuse of easily obtainable PC parts, even though that may be way more heatsink than required for this CPU?
PCI-Express slots. A number of them. They must have used a PCI-Express switch for PowerPC for that many of them, may not give much real clue about which PPC SOC was used. Though I don't see a switch chip, maybe hiding under the "Not Yet" box.
Two banks of RAM. The 8610 only has one controller, 8640/8641 have two memory controllers. So I'd guess 8640/8641. (which are very similar, 8640 sounds like a lower power version of 8641)
Recent hints of multi-CPU support coming also support the 8640/8641 dual-core.
I am of course ignoring AMCC chips above, I don't know as much about them, but don't consider them high-performance as 8640, so that's what I hope for. Maybe Titan, but that still seems new enough to not be as likely. I don't know much about Freescale's QorIQ chips either.
Looks like a Xilinx FPGA behind the PCI white slots. I like FPGAs. Hopefully it's big/fast enough and connected to useful connections to do something cool. Last edited by billt on 03-Jan-2010 at 06:17 PM. Last edited by billt on 03-Jan-2010 at 06:10 PM.
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Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Part 2 Posted on 3-Jan-2010 18:09:39
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| @JurassicC
did anyone already notice that in the source of http://a-eon.com/5.html it says "Did you spot the xorro slot?" Seems like tomorrow's piece of the puzzle will bring some more insight on that...
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Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Part 2 Posted on 3-Jan-2010 18:12:22
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| @BinoX
I got a different response to typing in xena. I got the "You may be spot on but I'm just javascript" response.
That was from clicking the CPU though. I redid it on the other box and got your response.
I did get the CPU box to tell me I'm so smart I may cut myself. Hurray? Last edited by billt on 03-Jan-2010 at 06:15 PM.
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Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Part 2 Posted on 3-Jan-2010 18:14:05
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| What can Xorro deliver than PCI/PCI-E can't? it must be something other than a transport layer.
If they just added another custom socket just too be cool, they could just as well have added a ISA slot or Zorro for that matter. _________________ Debugging is a state of mind |
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Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Part 2 Posted on 3-Jan-2010 18:14:48
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| @billt
That was the CPU one.
The one that gives you that response about xena is the "Not yet..." one you get the reponse you got if you do it on the "But almost..." one _________________ Back to action! |
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Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Part 2 Posted on 3-Jan-2010 18:15:33
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| @Fransexy
Dancing Xena 
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Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Part 2 Posted on 3-Jan-2010 18:17:22
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| Finding it difficult to keep track of what been found, whats been confirmed and whats just rumour, any chance a Moderator, could do a brief run down on what we know so far and post on the very first post of this thread 'tomazkid'.
I do find it odd however that hardly any other Amiga related site seems to be talking about it.
Any way this is all very good news, a new motherboard means it very likely I will be getting a new amiga this year as no1 this new hardware will be so good I will just have to get one, no2 the price of the new board is very low so I can get one or no3, I can get a cheap 2nd hand Sam board for a user who upgrades. So good good. Great start to the year!
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Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Part 2 Posted on 3-Jan-2010 18:17:47
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But a-eon technologies is founded as being a company developing computerhardware, including accessories. Add that to the absence of a display connector and one (at least I) could conclude that together with this motherboard and fancy case they might as well deliver some fancy video-card to fit the Xorro slot. _________________ Back home... |
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Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Part 2 Posted on 3-Jan-2010 18:18:44
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| Xorro slots aren't necessarily compatible with Zorro slots, in fact I'd doubt that - probably just user ports that cards can be created for to add functionality?
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Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Part 2 Posted on 3-Jan-2010 18:18:59
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| @billt
Titan has been ruled out by TrevorD already. The 864x is not too compatible with 16x PCIe and more than 4 GB ram. Leaves virtually only the PA 1682. _________________ My programs: via.bckrs.de MorphOS user since V0.4 (2001) |
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Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Part 2 Posted on 3-Jan-2010 18:25:41
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| @BinoX
I see you opened the javascript to read the possible answers aswell!
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Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Part 2 Posted on 3-Jan-2010 18:27:26
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| I've changed my CPU guess to the QorIQ P4080 :) :
Page 18 in this document for a schematic of the P4080: Freescale 2009 roadmap PDF
I didn't figure that the MPC8641D was from about 4 years ago. The above document is from August 2009.
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Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Part 2 Posted on 3-Jan-2010 18:28:51
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No idea what xorro is, but after seeing you point to the clue, look more closel;y at the pci-express slot closest to the white pci slots. I didn' t notice at first, looked likey at anther physical x16 slot, but it is actually more like a x1 slot with something directly behind it that looks like the same slot. Since it sounds like something not industry standard, the FPGA must go there. Xorro, borrowing the X from the Xilinx? Hmmm...
Finally got to the first thread part where Rogue talks about this Xorro slot a bit.
It doesn't financially make sense to make any custom chip silicon, it must all be in the FPGA, which must be the Xorro slot. IMHO.Last edited by billt on 03-Jan-2010 at 06:42 PM.
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Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Part 2 Posted on 3-Jan-2010 18:33:41
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Finding it difficult to keep track of what been found, whats been confirmed and whats just rumour, any chance a Moderator, could do a brief run down on what we know so far and post on the very first post of this thread 'tomazkid'. |
That's really the responsibility of the user who starts a thread and has that control. Whether he chooses to do so or not would be his decision. We've seen such summaries done in troubleshooting threads many times.
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I do find it odd however that hardly any other Amiga related site seems to be talking about it. |
Amiga.org and Moobunny have growing threads, as well as numerous irc channels. I sense that frowning down on speculation in general on amigans.net over the years has driven home the thought that speculation of even a positive nature is a dangerous road to travel. Just my 2¢ with no intention to offend.
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Re: MAP == A-Eon.com? Part 2 Posted on 3-Jan-2010 18:35:20
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| @BinoX
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BinoX wrote: Yeah, I'm at work too.. But I don't mind, I work at a computer anyway, I'll just break work's F5 key instead of my own :) |
No you won't. You'll be working, I`ll make sure of it!
Also, all talk of this is banned at work!
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