[quote poster: pjhutch Date: 25-Oct-2009 19:36:45]

Hyperion has announced some updates for AmigaOS 4 for 4.1.1 and even 4.1.2 but I haven't heard of any updates for AmigaOS 4 for the Classic Amigas with PPC cards?
Its still stuck at 4.0 (unless someone knows different), and couple do with the upgrades from the AmigaOne/Sam side of updates...
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Reading between the lines, Hyperion are trying to create standard patform based on 4.1 and so the classic 4.0 users will to be left behind. Although it's a shame, you can't expect a small company like Hyperion to support more than one version of OS 4.x

Last edited by NovaCoder on 26-Oct-2009 at 03:24 AM.

Seems Hyperion is trying to keep all versions (A1, Peg, SAM, MicroA1) at the same feature set with AmigaOS4.1.1.
I would think there is stuff in AmigaOS4.1(.1) that just can't be done on a classic or perhaps Hyperion evaluated sales of AmigaOS4.0 and can't justify the expense of doing an upgrade for the classics?

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I am eagerly waiting for the new update of OS4.1 after this agreement. I have read and heard all about it and think that many problems I am facing will be gone (stability, usb, speed to name a few).

I believe that the developemnt of OS4.x is on the good hands of Hyperion. And I do hope also, that this agreement will enable to work a little bit faster.

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I am not sure if there will be a new UBoot for AmigaOne. That hardware is now a thing of the past and that support might likely be fased out. SAM440 and future hardware in the other hand will have a new UBoot or another more modern BIOS...

I didn't know about 4.1.2, but just about 4.1.1 and 4.2 of AmigaOS. The 4.2 has me most interested, indeed..

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I didn't know about 4.1.2, but just about 4.1.1 and 4.2 of AmigaOS. The 4.2 has me most interested, indeed..

What's in 4.2, or for that matter what is confirmed as in 4.1.1?

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Re: AmigaOS4.1.1 (and 4.2)

http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=29845&forum=14

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@HKvalhe

Here you go again, creating wild suppositions from thin air.

If I were you, I'd stop trying to guess what others are thinking, you're obviously no good at it.

@all

There are currently no plans to "fase" out AmigaOne hardware, despite it's age. AmigaOS 4.1 Update 1 will support all current 4.1 platforms.

Simon

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I am not sure if there will be a new UBoot for AmigaOne. That hardware is now a thing of the past and that support might likely be fased out. SAM440 and future hardware in the other hand will have a new UBoot or another more modern BIOS...

!Helge you do it all the time.....assume you KNOW exactly whats gonna happen, and writes about like it's confirmed fact from official source. Then they get mad at you, and some of us gets confused, because we haven't heard anything claiming these things you claim to know.

can't you see you should take a more humble unknowing approach, and never assume anything until it's 100% official from the vendors.

Thanks hope you can use this, and get an easier life here on aw.net, without people attacking you. I know you mean all this in a good sense, but it only gets devs, user, etc. mad at you! - and that's fully understandable!


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Quote: I am not sure if there will be a new UBoot for AmigaOne. That hardware is now a thing of the past and that support might likely be fased out. SAM440 and future hardware in the other hand will have a new UBoot or another more modern BIOS... !Helge you do it all the time.....assume you KNOW exactly whats gonna happen, and writes about like it's confirmed fact from official source. Then they get mad at you, and some of us gets confused, because we haven't heard anything claiming these things you claim to know. can't you see you should take a more humble unknowing approach, and never assume anything until it's 100% official from the vendors. Thanks hope you can use this, and get an easier life here on aw.net, without people attacking you. I know you mean all this in a good sense, but it only gets devs, user, etc. mad at you! - and that's fully understandable!

Not wanting to take sides here, but Helge started his comments off with:
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I am not sure...

and used:
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might likely

in the 2nd sentence.

This is far cry from:
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assume you KNOW exactly whats gonna happen, and writes about like it's confirmed fact from official source.

as you put it.

Rather it is just Helge speaking more speculation. There are a lot of other people on this site speaking speculation also.

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It's not just this one post which triggered me. It has happended alot throughout his entire time on aw.net. Well you know what I'm trying to tell him....So no harm done, it just gets annoying when he tries to sound like someone who knows what's gonna happen, before the relevant companies said anything about it.

To Helge......keep posting for gods sake, you light up amigaworld with your presence, but stay off the conclusions

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@Hondo
In the past I have noticed the tendancy that you complained about, but I think that post by Helge was a reasonable one, and I do think more recently he has probably tried to add qualifiers to his posts. (I don't read enough of his posts to be sure on that.)

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Just a small advice: if you can, put all OS 4.1 (or next OS 4.2) versions (AmigaOne, Pegasos 2, Sam) on the same CD/DVD... it's quite strange to see different versions for similar hardware...

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*snip*....That hardware is now a thing of the past and that support might likely be fased out...*snip*

You were referring to your own Amigaones I assume?

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Just a small advice: if you can, put all OS 4.1 (or next OS 4.2) versions (AmigaOne, Pegasos 2, Sam) on the same CD/DVD... it's quite strange to see different versions for similar hardware...

It is just that they are selling the different versions separately.
A bit uncommon when compared with other commercial operating systems on the market, but understandable given the hobby user base.

OSX has somewhat similar approach, with different versions tailored for the hardware it ships with (at least it used to).

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Reading between the lines, Hyperion are trying to create standard patform based on 4.1 and so the classic 4.0 users will to be left behind. Although it's a shame, you can't expect a small company like Hyperion to support more than one version of OS 4.x

I don't know what lines you are reading between, but a 4.1 for Classics hasn't been ruled out yet. It will not happen too soon, most certainly not this year, and it might not happen at all, but the possibility is certainly there. Not, it might not happen at all. It does depend on a number of factors. Factors I can't go into now.

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A new Classic PPC accelerator?
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I hope not. The classic is in my opion dead. It's a nice Amiga OS 3.9 machine that has a PPC coprocessor in some instances.

If there would be a new accelerator for the classic it would be much nicer if it would be one taking DIMM memory and a 68060 that can be clocked at 100 MHz.

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Well OS 4.0 classic has demonstrated that the Classic with PPC can be much more than an "OS 3.9 machine with PPC co-processor". In fact OS4.0 classic runs very well.

As Rogue pointed out, OS 4.1 has not been ruled out.

As for a new classic PPC accelerator...I'm all for it. The problem is...who would make it and at what cost? I would think people would not be willing to pay more than 500 EURO for such an accelerator, and you would have to make two versions - one for A1200 and one for A3/4000.

It would cost very much to develop and I think and that development would have to be justified by the number of potential sales. It has already been discussed that modifying the Cyberstorm PPC is not an option. It's not ROHS compliant and various chips on that board are no longer available.

I would be the first one to jump in line to buy a new classic PPC accelerator, and if I was rich I would fund the development and production myself... but I am not expecting this to happen, unfortunately. (me winning the lottery or someone else who is an Amiga user) :)

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In my opion it's all pointless. It should have never been produced for the BlizzardPPC and CyberstormPPC in the first place. There are far less of those then secondhand mini Macs. They are slow and tagged to some other slow and unstable hardware.

We already have enough unstable and slow other hardware. Please no more Frankenstein solutions.

If the Mac Mini is not going to be supported because it can not be bought new then why was it ever produced for that old Phase 5 hardware? It could not be bought new back then. And what about the Pegasus 2? Also could not be bought new.

There are litteraly tens of thousands of Mac Mini machines that can be bought over the next few years.

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