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Re: A-EON Technology secures graphic card support for AmigaO Posted on 24-Jun-2012 12:59:28
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Exactly, they could have just whacked £5.00 on top of AmigaOS 4.2 and I would have been known the wiser and everyone would have been happy. _________________
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Re: A-EON Technology secures graphic card support for AmigaO Posted on 24-Jun-2012 13:01:55
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Other than that, why not free for AmigaOS 4.1 registered customers as well? |
This is an A-EON funded project and the development costs need to be recuperated. Other AmigaOS hadrware providers already provide RadeonHD 4000 (R700) drivers to their customers. A-EON wanted to provide support for other RadeonHD chipsets for its customers and also offer the drivers to customers owning non-A-EON hardware in the fairest possible way. _________________ Amiga Kit Amiga Store Links: www.amigakit.com | New Products | A600GS
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Re: A-EON Technology secures graphic card support for AmigaO Posted on 24-Jun-2012 13:02:20
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| Yes but that wil not happen in 2012, me thinks |
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Re: A-EON Technology secures graphic card support for AmigaO Posted on 24-Jun-2012 13:03:41
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Re: A-EON Technology secures graphic card support for AmigaO Posted on 24-Jun-2012 13:05:38
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| So to clarify:
Purchasers of the Acube systems get a driver for the included GPU free of charge but will have to buy the driver if they want support for cards intruduced in subsequent versions. x1000 owners get all versions of the driver free for all time?
Is this a stop gap measure until OS4 gets a new graphics system or is that idea scrapped now? _________________ Fraggle
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Re: A-EON Technology secures graphic card support for AmigaO Posted on 24-Jun-2012 13:06:21
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This is an A-EON funded project and the development costs need to be recuperated. Other AmigaOS hadrware providers already provide RadeonHD 4000 (R700) drivers to their customers. A-EON wanted to provide support for other RadeonHD chipsets for its customers and also offer the drivers to customers owning non-A-EON hardware in the fairest possible way. |
so, just to clarify, can you confirm that there will either be two branches of the driver -- one for R700 and below that will continue to receive bug fixes for acube customers and one that supports new cards for a fee -- or that there will be no further free updates to the driver for any graphics chipset level at all?
this is wonderful news that new cards and chipsets are being supported, and a fee for this certainly isn't unreasonable; however for SAM460ex customers, i'm sure they'd like to be reassured that they will not need to pay for the privilege of getting bug fixes for their already (previously) supported graphics cards, especially considering they were not feature-complete in any case.
edit: looks like @frags beat me to the question by a few seconds. ;--)
-- eliyahuLast edited by eliyahu on 24-Jun-2012 at 01:07 PM.
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Re: A-EON Technology secures graphic card support for AmigaO Posted on 24-Jun-2012 13:07:09
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| £30 for 4 years work covering many different gfx cards up to ones released this year.
It's up to people to decide if that hard work is worth it, and the driver will be usefull for them.
Be aware, buying this won't magically get you 3D, that will be in os4.2. _________________
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Re: A-EON Technology secures graphic card support for AmigaO Posted on 24-Jun-2012 13:09:38
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This is an A-EON funded project and the development costs need to be recuperated. Other AmigaOS hadrware providers already provide RadeonHD 4000 (R700) drivers to their customers.. |
Does this mean A-Cube are still funding development of the Radeon HD 4650 for existing AmigaOne 500/SAM 460ex users?
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Re: A-EON Technology secures graphic card support for AmigaO Posted on 24-Jun-2012 13:09:48
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Besides overlay, what features are missing that you need? _________________
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Re: A-EON Technology secures graphic card support for AmigaO Posted on 24-Jun-2012 13:10:25
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Re: A-EON Technology secures graphic card support for AmigaO Posted on 24-Jun-2012 13:12:47
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Re: A-EON Technology secures graphic card support for AmigaO Posted on 24-Jun-2012 13:13:19
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| I can confirm that all RadeonHD driver development up to and including version 1.0 release is being funded by A-EON Technology. This includes all of the RadeonHD series listed in the news release.
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Re: A-EON Technology secures graphic card support for AmigaO Posted on 24-Jun-2012 13:13:22
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That price includes future development of the RadeonHD chip, or customers will have to pay again for newer gfx cards after 2-3 years? _________________
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Re: A-EON Technology secures graphic card support for AmigaO Posted on 24-Jun-2012 13:13:47
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v0.32 != v1.0 != completed driver. That doesn't really make it any clearer for AmigaOne 500/SAM460 users.
Clarification required.
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I can confirm that all RadeonHD driver development up to and including version 1.0 release is being funded by A-EON Technology. This includes all of the RadeonHD series listed in the news release. |
Yes, but does this mean AmigaOne 500/SAM460 will continue to get free updates up to v1.0?Last edited by djrikki on 24-Jun-2012 at 01:17 PM.
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Re: A-EON Technology secures graphic card support for AmigaO Posted on 24-Jun-2012 13:15:22
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ok.... we know that. the question is what comes after. it sounds to me like you're saying that there will be no updates whatsoever beyond the current version provided via acube unless SAM460ex owners pony up $45USD. that seems a rather sharp stick in the eye, frankly. if this isn't the case, could you please state so explicitly?
again, glad to see things moving along, but for those folks who purchased a SAM460ex because (at the time) it was the only amiga NG to support PCIe graphics cards, who lived through bugs and missing features, and are now faced with having to pay for bug fixes to a third-party, well, it just doesn't seem right. maybe if they had been informed of this at some level. i can't imagine acube is happy about this for their customers' sake.
-- eliyahuLast edited by eliyahu on 24-Jun-2012 at 01:15 PM.
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Re: A-EON Technology secures graphic card support for AmigaO Posted on 24-Jun-2012 13:17:57
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| The numbering system is a little confusing but 0.32 has complete support for the Radeon up to the 4000 (R700) series. Your driver is complete if you wish to stay with the R700.
If you wish to upgrade to the next series, you will need the A-EON drtiver. The cost of which entitles customers to free upgrades until v1.0.
@eliyahu I am not aware of any issues with the 0.32 Radeon driver in my personal SAM 460ex. It works well for me with the Radeon 4650. Last edited by amigakit on 24-Jun-2012 at 01:21 PM.
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Re: A-EON Technology secures graphic card support for AmigaO Posted on 24-Jun-2012 13:20:08
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If you wish to upgrade to the next series, you will need the A-EON drtiver. The cost of which entitles customers to free upgrades until v1.0. |
What's the schedule beyond that? _________________
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Re: A-EON Technology secures graphic card support for AmigaO Posted on 24-Jun-2012 13:21:30
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We can simply visit Hans' website to realise that is not true. There is stuff missing like previously mentioned.
Stuttered video playback still visible.Last edited by djrikki on 24-Jun-2012 at 01:22 PM.
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Re: A-EON Technology secures graphic card support for AmigaO Posted on 24-Jun-2012 13:21:34
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thanks for the clarification, when and where can i download the new one ? Do i have to register to AEON web site? _________________ Sam 460EX, 2Gb Ram, Radeon R7 250, AmigaOS4.1 FE A4000 PPC604@233, Mediator A1200 PPC603@160, Mediator uA1 G3@800, 512 Mb [sold]
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Re: A-EON Technology secures graphic card support for AmigaO Posted on 24-Jun-2012 13:22:40
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| Well the fact these drivers exist and are being worked on is encouraging in any case but wouldn`t they be orphaned by Gallium? _________________ Fraggle
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