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Software News   Software News : Papyrus Office Amiga Preordering
   posted by Michael_Garlich on 14-Dec-2004 0:09:52 (10419 reads)
AmigaOS version of PapyrusOffice is ready, you can preorder your copy here. Papyrus Page
    

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Re: Papyrus Office Amiga Preordering
Posted on 14-Dec-2004 10:57:22
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The price is OK for an office suite but I'm not spending that much on anything which is not OS4 native.

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Re: Papyrus Office Amiga Preordering
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So do I!
I won't spend money on a 68k version ...

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Re: Papyrus Office Amiga Preordering
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Yes OS4 native please ...


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Re: Papyrus Office Amiga Preordering
Posted on 14-Dec-2004 11:23:05
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A bit expensive, but sure, if it were a native OS4 version.

Hmm, if everyone would buy a native OS4 version, would everyone donate 100 Euros to an OS4 OpenOffice porting fund ? Would it allocate enough funds for developers ?


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Re: Papyrus Office Amiga Preordering
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I would rather see an OS 4.0 native please -.- It is time we detach from the 68k and look into the future.

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Re: Papyrus Office Amiga Preordering
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I buy only AmigaOS4 version...


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Re: Papyrus Office Amiga Preordering
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I hope that someone from Titan read these posts.... OS4 native please


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Re: Papyrus Office Amiga Preordering
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Hehe, I guess I'm not the only native software only fanatic out there ;)

/Björn

 
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Re: Papyrus Office Amiga Preordering
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Chris_Y wrote:
Quote:
I'd much rather have an OS4 native version, however I've been having serious problems with Wordworth since the OS4 update so even the 68k version is tempting.

However, I'd like to try a demo or at least see a review first.

edit and I've just noticed that it requires Turboprint, which I don't have and would rather not use on OS4.


You need Turboprint running to be able to print from Wordsworth.

It is Turbospool that causes problems on OS4 not Turboprint.
I have set up both 'Turboprefs' and 'Noturbo' on my Amidock, and installed Turbostart to WBStartup.

If I need to print from AmiPDF, or AmiGS, then I remove Turboprint by selecting NoTurbo, and afterwards I can select Turboprefs to run turboprint again.

My understanding is that the only problem with Wordsworth is to do with the Find/replace functions, everything else works fine.


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Re: Papyrus Office Amiga Preordering
Posted on 14-Dec-2004 12:36:14
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I use both WW7 and Amigawriter on OS4, and since the update AW is the more stable.

However AW is lacking a lot in features (although those it does have are well implemented).

So I would really appreciate a GOOD WP - It appears the Papyrus could be that, but without an OS4 version, or at least an OS4 compatability guaruntee, I feel that people will not be eager to buy before they try.

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Re: Papyrus Office Amiga Preordering
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@Swoop

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You need Turboprint running to be able to print from Wordsworth.


No you don't. Printing works fine, the problem is beeping (which affects spellchecker and find/replace, but can be circumvented with NallePuh) and trying to change document margins. Both of these cause Wordworth to freeze. Both of them worked before the update. I like Wordworth, but I would rather buy a new WP that works properly in OS4.

I'd also rather not have to buy Turboprint just for one program, when OS4 will eventually have a swanky new printer.device itself.

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Re: Papyrus Office Amiga Preordering
Posted on 14-Dec-2004 13:01:05
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@ all

Well I have just tried the downloadable XP enligh demo of Papyrus. The version is 8.23, but the version you can buy now for XP is upto 10.x

What can I say - well at version 8.23 I am quite impressed!

Table support is good, it spellchecks as you type, has the usual formating options.

I have not got into the database yet, or had the time to try out many other things, but so far it looks good.

We NEED this on OS4!!

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Re: Papyrus Office Amiga Preordering
Posted on 14-Dec-2004 13:18:44
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@Titan:

I would buy PapyrusOffice if it works on OS4. A demo is the best way to convince me. I would prefer an application that is native PPC/OS4, but I would live with a 68k version, as long as all the features work properly. The Amiga market (all colors) really NEEDS a good office suite with ongoing support.

At first look, the price appeared a bit high, but then I realized that it is a suite including WP, spreadsheet & database apps.

Best wishes to you, and success for your products (on any platform).
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I hope you've all contacted them to let them know about your interest in an OS4 version


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Can be contacted from this link http://www.titan-computer.com/ami/index.html


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I'd also rather not have to buy Turboprint just for one program, when OS4 will eventually have a swanky new printer.device itself.


The problem would be the printers supported in OS4.0. TurboPrint has so many supported printers and they add to them all the time. How long is it going to take till we have that many supported in OS.4.0?

If there was an OS4.0 version of TurboPrint I would consider it seriously.

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I think what some people don't get is that OS4 is not a viable commercial plattform at the moment (wether that will ever change is another question, but 500-1500 (depending on whose lies you believe) is not viable).

Titan have decided to a MorphOS version inspite of it being just as viable as OS4. This may have several reason, which are again completly off-topic.

They have also decided to do an 68k-version, since they could compile and test it on the same machine as the MOS-version.

Doing an OS4 version (with proper testing) would require them to spend atleast 1000Euro and xxx hours.

How many of those 500-1500 OS4-users would buy copy ? Realistly between 50 and 100, and at those numbers it will be very hard to make a dime.

For those you want to claim that Titan could sell more, it's perfect chicken&egg:
Titan doesn't believe in a strong OS4-market.
User refuse to buy 68k-version.
Titan believes even less in a strong OS4-market.

The only way out of this is to buy the 68k-verion (assuming it works o.k.) and tell Titan that you would like an OS4-version. Get 200 people to do that, and you might get your wish.


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@ Kronos

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Get 200 people to do that, and you might get your wish.


I don't think that would be the case, what stimulant would be left to produce a PPC native AmigaOS4 version when such people already own a 68k version?

I don't think porting the PPC native MOS version to AmigaOS4 would be such a big deal. Maybe some current AOS4 developers would gladly provide a helping hand and surely they will easily be able to get help from beta-testers.

Personally I would only use 68k emulation for 68k software I either already own or those which are now being freely distributed.

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Whinning in forums certainly does not help either, and "no big deal" is very vaque at best.

It definitly requires the purchase of a A1 (full system).
It definitly requires a developer to work himself into the SDK (and those hours costs too).
It defintly requires some inhouse work and testing (you know $$$$).
It may even require a change in the licence from logikware (again $$$$).

And all for the chance to sell between 0 and 100 extra copies ???


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Doing an OS4 version (with proper testing) would require them to spend atleast 1000Euro and xxx hours.

How many of those 500-1500 OS4-users would buy copy ? Realistly between 50 and 100, and at those numbers it will be very hard to make a dime.


Hmm, that sounds as if it actually would be profitable, if one concider electronic distribution, and it also sounds as a worst case scenario, surely an office application is desired by many.

Quote:
Titan doesn't believe in a strong OS4-market.
User refuse to buy 68k-version.
Titan believes even less in a strong OS4-market.


OS4 is a PPC solution and not a 68k solution, thus your reasoning doesn´t make much sense. Would a Classic OS9 solution really be appealing to OSX users (or even worse 68k mac vs ppc), and could one make any real assumptions based on the sales for either system, i don´t think so.


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