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Software News   Software News : MorphOS Update for PowerUP
   posted by TrebleSix on 28-Sep-2005 14:13:49 (5301 reads)
Hopefully this will fixed the problems I and some others have been experiencing

28th September, 2005 - The MorphOS Development Team would like to inform that a new version of the MorphOS Free Edition for PowerUP accelerator boards is immediately available for download.



Some of the included changes are as follows:
- Missing TrueType font added which results in a major speedup of MUI and related applications.
- Compatible 680x0 libraries added
- New 800x600 @ 60Hz default boot screenmode.
- 56kHz paula audio is enabled now.
- Updated Voodoo 2D drivers.
- New Voodoo 3D driver added.
- Updated documentation.
More information can be found at http://powerup.morphos-team.net
    

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Re: MorphOS Update for PowerUP
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...excellent..thanks for Info!


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So, with the 3d driver for Voodoo in there now, can PowerUP users now run any software that otherwise required the recent 3d update package for Pegasos/MorphOS? It seemed like after MOS was released for PUP hardware that all apps coming out required either that or something else that was only available on Peg2 hardware...


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Re: MorphOS Update for PowerUP
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Quote:
MorphOS 1.4.5 PowerUP edition is limited to 2 hours per session. After that period it will slow down considerably.

Sounds like using Windows!

But there is a fix!
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If you would like to remove this limitation, install and configure a network stack. Then, launch the RegTool utility found in the root directory of your MorphOS partition.

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Re: MorphOS Update for PowerUP
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Quote:

So, with the 3d driver for Voodoo in there now, can PowerUP users now run any software that otherwise required the recent 3d update package for Pegasos/MorphOS?


I guess so, yes. These should be the drivers from the 3D-Package. I can't verify as I only have a BVision.


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Sigh - I was hoping this update would get MOS up and running on my BPPC, but no, it still locks up either during booting or a few seconds after the Ambient desktop appears (fails to respond, and soon after the mouse pointer locks too). So, still completely unusable for me

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How much ram do you have? have you tried using scsi or ide?

Have you tried to load WB instead of Ambient? Download PowerIcons, pathc the workbench.library and try it...


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My system is very similar to PowerUp's it seems. I have a BPPC 603e 240MHz + SCSI, 128Mb ram, BVision. My MOS boot partition is on the internal A1200 IDE interface, although I have also tried on SCSI. I'll maybe try not using Ambient, but it seems silly if it works on other systems - I really don't have time to mess around getting it working, whereas OS4 works out-of-the-box on my BPPC with no issues. It's strange that some of people on the MOS team were involved with phase5, yet they can't get MOS to work properly on hardware they know very well. It's a shame because this is probably one of the main obstacles preventing a MOS-native version of IBrowse, or at least a MOS-native javascript.library for IBrowse 2.4.

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Its always easy to blame mos developers. Sure it can work for some and not for others. However as you say, you havent got time to mess around getting it to work. Mostly systems needs time to get it to work. And if you dont, then its easy. Dont use it. I have friends that also had problems with it. They messed around it, read all installation docs, asked people on the internet etc and now it works for them. You say os4 works out of the box for ya. Yeas sure if your a betatester. MOS is avaiable to the public which means everyone can use it with blizzard. Ofcourse not all 3rd party is working i believe but the main hardware is.

Like for example i have often heard people that says IB is working good and they prefere it as AWEB is bad and the coders should use more time to get it to work. The thing was something was bad with their config/install so i sent them my archive. And what happened ? It worked on their computers. The same person now talk about how great it is and they use it more then IB and they want new features.

If you cant get it work and dont have time, dont do it :) Its easy then that
but dont blame mos guys. We are thankfull they made a update for BPPC users and its also for free. Will os4 be free ? And if something dont work they will hopefully fix it. Do you believe that os4 is just that easy to install without the guide ? On A1 i wanted to make a new install os4 of upd1-upd3. It wasnt easy, took me 7 hours to fix everything.

Peace :)

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Kicko

although i'm using MOS PuP everyday since the release date (and i'm
happy with it), i would be cautios to elaborate WHY MOS Team decided
to release MOS for Pup (if i were you)

Anyway, thanks to them from me too


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@Futaura

Do you use SFS in the MOS partition? It has been stated serveral times that FFS 45.x doesn't work.

Please spend some time trying to make it work, your config should allow it, I would bet that it's related to the filesystem you are using.

Try with resetlevel 3 if 1 doesn't work.

Forget what I have told you about ambient, I thought that maybe you only had 64MB of ram, but I used 128MB with my Peg1 and it was enough for normal use.

If you have more problems with MorphOS there's a dedicated PowerUP forum in MorphZone where you'll find help here

Please don't give it, it won't take you much time to format the partition with SFS and make a few attempts changing the resetlevel.

Oh! be sure that you have MAPROM disabled and that you cold-boot when trying to boot MOS.

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@Crumb

Yes, I did already have MAPROM disabled. I was using FFS on the boot partition, since I'm sure I read many times that this was recommended. But, anyway, I've now switched it to SFS, but it hasn't helped at all - the same problem occurs I tried different resetlevel, but they don't help either - baffles me why such hacks are necessary anyway. I guess I didn't make it clear in my first message, but I've already spent many hours trying to get MOS working, hence I'm a little sick of it. It would be nice to get it working though, because I could then see if the devkit worked ok (never could get it working from the early days, hence I used VBCC - I guess things have changed a bit since then though), and try compiling the MOS WarpDTs with GCC, in addition to looking at porting IBrowse, etc.

The other problem is that I'm finding that some ISPs cannot actually access MorphZone, although the problem is more to do with their host - I can't access www.ziaspace.com either. I just get connection refused or connection reset by peer errors when trying to access ziaspace sites, and they don't respond to pings either, but traceroute output looks ok. The last time I was able to access MorphZone was months ago, before they had server problems, IIRC - since I couldn't access it, I assumed it was still down, but obviously this is not the case.

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Sadly, having spent the last 2 hours trying, I too have not had any more luck getting this working than previously. Sadly, this is proving to be too much like hard work, and I am somewhat tired of trying to get it booting.

I have read over the MZ forums, but to be honest, they do not offer much help as most people who post there had practically no problems getting MOS running on their systems.

/me throws in the towel and resigns to the fact that MOS 1.4.5 is unlikely to ever run again on his A4000.


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@Futaura

There is also MorphOS targetted GCC for AmigaOS. Seems it is available nowhere anymore but I have it on my Amiga HD still. But it probably wont make much difference to VBCC if you cant test stuff...


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@_Steve_

Check your MorphOS fonts directory.

I can't copy some of the fonts over, as the names are too long or something.
Scratches head
EDIT-
Have now installed SFS, and copy over works ok, and am going through the reset levels with no luck so far!

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@Futaura

The fact that they know the hardware inside out means that they use every single aspect of it and expect it to work *properly*. I had been involved in beta testing older versions of MorphOS for PowerUP on my hardware (that appeared to work fine on most stuff) and debug info uncovered some problems in my hardware...


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@treblesix

Everything copied over from the new CD image just fine. Sadly, like you, no amount of fiddling with reset values or delay times seems to have any kind of effect. Reset level 5 does make the machine reset properly though, it just refuses to boot MOS properly, and I haven't been able to get the butterfly loader image up in ages - a shame really as when I did have it working, I rather liked it.


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OOPS!
Edit: Screw this, misread.

Last edited by AMiGR on 01-Oct-2005 at 07:03 PM.


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I just managed to get it working on my Grex Voodoo3.

I had a bad arguments at boot up.
I changed my boot priority to -2 and checked my startup sequence.

At the end of the startup-sequence the last word "kickstart" was "kickst"
so i filled in the missing letters and up she came.

Now my next trick is to make it fit the screen.

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cap

yes that is a common problem (using crap editor like ED)

Check again ALL the argument on your S-S

Use a filesystem that support more than 32 char.

Steve

try this (here doesn't works in a different way)

set bootdevice "bootdevice=XXX:" WITH THE COLON

and

set resetlevel 5
set delay 1

; Load the MorphOS loader!

cd sys:boot
startup hal=roms/hal.com1 kernel=roms/kernel.com1 abox=roms/abox2.com1 module=roms/module.com1 resetlevel=$resetlevel ramdebug verbose debug EDebugFlags="NoLogServer NoLogWindow" sumkick disableled delay=$delay extmodules=extmodules/#? $bootdevice $kickstart >NIL:


not always it atarts at a first try but insist with these settings.


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Hi Oliver

about the problem with MZ, try to use a spare DNS (same problem here
with Intuitionbase few weeks ago).

Anyway the most important helps i've received, has been on other
"neutral" sites (and thanks to some friends here in Italy).

If you REALLY want to see MOS PuP working on your system, i'm sure you
can.

Its funny and in some situations/apps (even not-native very, very fast
as (i'm 100% sure) will be AmigaOS4 on Classic. (if and when
available)

Go figure, that with "Amigift 2.0 020DEBUG" and a bunch of debug
output activated, its faster that under AmigaOS!!!!

@ AmiGR

I need a little help, to understand how "activate" CyberGuardPPC.

I've seen thet its already present as default but when i run
SashimiPPC, CyberGuardPPC "seems" not activated.

i.e i can do a

5/0.Ram Disk:> version CyberGuardPPC
CyberguardPPC 0.4

and it is recognized but if i attempt to run it from Shell (with some
arguments and not), a get "object not found"

Is there a way to activate it when needed and NOT during SS?

Thanks


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