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Re: IRC session with Hans-Joerg Frieden Posted on 15-Apr-2007 18:00:17
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I think that everybody can download the CD, but only non-Earlybird users get it for free.. I am not sure about this though, not the business type Earlybird systems came with a cheaper version of OS 4, so they should be able to get the box for an aditional fee. |
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Re: IRC session with Hans-Joerg Frieden Posted on 15-Apr-2007 18:14:35
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Yes, I puzzled over that statement also.
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but only non-Earlybird users get it for free.
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I wonder if he meant Earlybird users get it for free.
Or I really do not understand what he is saying.
____________________ Moxee _________________ Moxee AmigaOne X1000 AmigaOne XE G4 I'd agree with you, but then we'd both be wrong.
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Re: IRC session with Hans-Joerg Frieden Posted on 15-Apr-2007 18:20:56
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| The Earlybird buyers have allready got one cd and their version of OS4 was cost reduced (included with the machine), so I read it as he is referring to those who have bought OS4 at full price, which Earlybird-buyers haven't. _________________ Site admins are people too..pooff!
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Re: IRC session with Hans-Joerg Frieden Posted on 15-Apr-2007 18:38:29
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| Good to see some life sign, but why is there not a SINGLE question regarding OS4 on new hardware? I find it very hard to believe that this question was never asked. |
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Re: IRC session with Hans-Joerg Frieden Posted on 15-Apr-2007 18:47:15
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Developers might be interested in this: We're also working on a new SDK right now. The final on the CD will include support for loading UNIX-liked shared objects |
Does this mean the OS4 port of The GIMP will be able to load its plugins soon then? |
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Re: IRC session with Hans-Joerg Frieden Posted on 15-Apr-2007 18:48:12
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Good to see some life sign, but why is there not a SINGLE question regarding OS4 on new hardware? I find it very hard to believe that this question was never asked. |
Maybe they have been instructed *not* to talk about that until the legal situation around OS4 (IP/ownership/etc.) has been cleared up. |
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Re: IRC session with Hans-Joerg Frieden Posted on 15-Apr-2007 18:56:53
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The Earlybird buyers have allready got one cd and their version of OS4 was cost reduced (included with the machine),
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Yes, I bought an Earlybird machine and later received a free OS4 Pre-Release CD.
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so I read it as he is referring to those who have bought OS4 at full price, which Earlybird-buyers haven't.
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It is true, I have not purchased OS4. But I thought the "Free OS4 CD" for Earlybird purchasers meant "Free OS4 CD" not "Free OS4 Pre-Release CD".
It does not matter to me though. I will gladly support OS4 by purchasing the full release CD when it is released. Even though I suppose I already have the full OS4 through all the downloads I have made.
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Re: IRC session with Hans-Joerg Frieden Posted on 15-Apr-2007 19:16:44
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It is true, I have not purchased OS4. But I thought the "Free OS4 CD" for Earlybird purchasers meant "Free OS4 CD" not "Free OS4 Pre-Release CD". |
I recall Alan from Eyetech said something about it in a forum post or in one of the interviews here at aw.net a few yeas ago.
and if I remember correctly Earlybird = OS4-PR cd, not OS4 final CD. _________________ Site admins are people too..pooff!
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Re: IRC session with Hans-Joerg Frieden Posted on 15-Apr-2007 19:18:46
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Maybe they have been instructed *not* to talk about that until the legal situation around OS4 (IP/ownership/etc.) has been cleared up. |
I think that was the case, and people participating was told that such questions would nor receive an answer. _________________ Site admins are people too..pooff!
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Re: IRC session with Hans-Joerg Frieden Posted on 15-Apr-2007 19:19:09
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| Personally I am thankfull that there are signs of life in the Hyperion camp.
Wish we could see life in AmigaInc (Q&A)? _________________ 1 AmigaOne G4XE (OS4 Pre-Release Update4) Minimig Sam440ep + OS4.1FE Sam460cr + OS4.1FE
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Re: IRC session with Hans-Joerg Frieden Posted on 15-Apr-2007 19:22:42
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| I find this part of the first question asking about os4 for the classic interesting.
[A: Classic version will be done as soon as we have the AmigaOne version out of the door, which should be "RSN"]
Since os4 Final is already out, is that a reference to new h/w (SAM)? One can only hope. _________________ Hate tends to make you look stupid...
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Re: IRC session with Hans-Joerg Frieden Posted on 15-Apr-2007 19:30:58
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I find this part of the first question asking about os4 for the classic interesting. [A: Classic version will be done as soon as we have the AmigaOne version out of the door, which should be "RSN"] Since os4 Final is already out, is that a reference to new h/w (SAM)? One can only hope. |
this means that they currently are finishing off the *cds* for os4 final. we have only an image file atm, with, for example, no contribution folder...
byebye... _________________ Michael Merkel (Michael.Merkel@gmx.net Home) Member of Amiga-Freunde Pfalz, OS4 Welt
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Re: IRC session with Hans-Joerg Frieden Posted on 15-Apr-2007 19:31:37
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| @tomazkid At least that confirms one rumor, that they are infact still in legal troubles with Amiga INC. Which also means that absolutely nothing has happened on the hardware front and that we are still in the same damn situation that have been in for the last couple of years. This pretty much slashes the small hope left for a solution by this year.
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Re: IRC session with Hans-Joerg Frieden Posted on 15-Apr-2007 19:53:03
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Re: IRC session with Hans-Joerg Frieden Posted on 15-Apr-2007 19:56:47
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@tomazkid At least that confirms one rumor, that they are infact still in legal troubles with Amiga INC.
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Those two comments started with "Maybe" and "I think". This is not a confirmation of any sort.
Why there was no mention of hardware in the IRC chat is anybody's guess.
Legal troubles there may be, but unless you are party to them no one can speak for sure about what is happening. _________________ Moxee AmigaOne X1000 AmigaOne XE G4 I'd agree with you, but then we'd both be wrong.
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Re: IRC session with Hans-Joerg Frieden Posted on 15-Apr-2007 20:15:18
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Why there was no mention of hardware in the IRC chat is anybody's guess. |
My opinion is that Rogue ain't the right guy to comment on these topics, these should come from either Hyperion, Acube or AInc. |
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Re: IRC session with Hans-Joerg Frieden Posted on 15-Apr-2007 20:19:25
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I wonder who is going to buy a CD with AmigaOne version of AmigaOS 4.0 while every AmigaOne and MicroA1 owner already has the system? Paying 100 euro for contribution section or SDK or simply for the CD case does not make it worth, don't you think? Could anyone elaborate on this a bit? Maybe a product which is going to be sold will differ in some areas from what is available for download? |
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Re: IRC session with Hans-Joerg Frieden Posted on 15-Apr-2007 20:27:11
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I believe there are some non-Earlybird AmigaOne owners too. |
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Re: IRC session with Hans-Joerg Frieden Posted on 15-Apr-2007 20:45:36
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But they have the system, right? They are using it, aren't they? If it was true what you are saying it could suggest that not every AmigaOne user has the system (I believe it is not true) or their copy could stop working in the day of the release (this is impossible).
Hyperion looks like a very rich company who can afford to introduce on the market The CD which will unlikely be bought (I am not thinking of a bunch of people who will buy it just because they want to have a white and red coloured case). Or maybe they will send the CD to all registered users which will not make it any cheaper? If I were a manager of an online shop and I had to have in my offer a product which should be sent for free (or some lower price) to ALL A1 users and I would had to cover the shipping costs, then I simply wouldn't put it on the stock. It does not calculate for me.
It is for me clear that publishing a CD of AmigaOne version of AmigaOS 4.0 seems a bit like wasting money. Wouldn't it be more profitable if AmigaOne and Classic version of OS 4 were published on one CD? Don't you think it could make more sense? |
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Re: IRC session with Hans-Joerg Frieden Posted on 15-Apr-2007 20:51:02
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there's at least one more possible explanation why the CD is being prepared... hmmm... SAM? But who knows... Last edited by AmiKit on 15-Apr-2007 at 08:51 PM.
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